First world cities in the developing world.

[carry_a_torch]

WHAT ARE THEY? :)

[Poryaa]

Moscow

[planet urrranus]

Hongkong

[brooklynprospect]

How about Third World Cities in First World Countries. At least half of American cities would qualify.

[Sen]

Hong Kong
Macau
Shanghai
Shenzhen
Moscow
Warsaw
Budapest
Mexico City
Sao Paulo
Kuala Lumpur
Bangkok

[carry_a_torch]

Hongkonghongkong is an independent economy,now just talk the cities form mainland China

[Sen]

i gave one vote for every city on the list LOL.....

bored...

[SUNNI]

Bangkok and KL

is Malaysia third world country??

[fttd]

Sao paolo and Shanghai

[superchan7]

HK isn't even on the list...

[WallyP]

None of them..maybe Santiago is the closest.

[Azn_chi_boi]

The chinese cities!

[tasiemiec]

Hong Kong
Macau
Shanghai
Shenzhen
Moscow
Warsaw
Budapest
Mexico City
Sao Paulo
Kuala Lumpur
Bangkok

Warsaw and Budapest in third world countries ? :bash: :weird: :crazy2: :? :hammer:

[Küsel]

Third World? A bit antiquated term I guess (cold war time) :) So let's say developping countries... and even that is a bit vague. But anyway most of the economy is based there in one major primate city. And the regional disparities are enourmous. Typical example: LAGOS, Nigeria.

From the list maybe Shenzhen - but China is not a "first world", means capitalist country as modern as the city may look...

[ILOVEYOU-]

Warsaw and Budapest in third world countries ? :bash: :weird: :crazy2: :? :hammer:
why not??

[FM 2258]

Wait, China and Russia count as 3rd World Countries? I didn't know that.

[Azn_chi_boi]

Eastern chian may be Industralized, but Western China(Tibet) is hardly industralizied.

Russia.... maybe a third world country because.... of Siberia?

[Küsel]

Forget this bloody first-second-third-world model! It's based on cold war terms as capitalist, communist and block-free countries. So Eastern Europe would be post-second world :) If it comes to HDI, regional disparities, stable governments and economical growth, Eastern Europe, parts of Latin America and South-East Asia are on the same level. Brazil, Poland and China have for example totally different historical backgrounds (economically, socially and politically) but can be considered in kind of the same "class" nowadays.

[tasiemiec]

why not??

:crazy:

[Poryaa]

Eastern chian may be Industralized, but Western China(Tibet) is hardly industralizied.

Russia.... maybe a third world country because.... of Siberia?

yeah Tibet is preventing China becoming the first world.

[Küsel]

Then give them the independance!!!! :)

[ILOVEYOU-]

although Tibet has few industry,but we can develope tourism there,Ibelieve Tibet will becmee a hot tourism site.
http://www.dphotography.net/forum/upload/images/200307/814_2072937157纳木错山口.JPG

[eklips]

I'd much rather be a poor person in Poland then in China

[ILOVEYOU-]

How beautiful Tibet is
http://classpic8.chinaren.com/album/pic/542/933/2817034544990933542/110338924453672.jpg

[ILOVEYOU-]

http://classpic6.chinaren.com/album/pic/542/933/2817034544990933542/110339144172791.jpg http://classpic7.chinaren.com/album/pic/542/933/2817034544990933542/110339194702822.jpg http://classpic8.chinaren.com/album/pic/542/933/2817034544990933542/110339244613804.jpg http://classpic8.chinaren.com/album/pic/542/933/2817034544990933542/110339367844027.jpg http://classpic8.chinaren.com/album/pic/542/933/2817034544990933542/110339387715718.jpg

[Handsome]

beautifu

[smussuw]

Dubai ?

[Sen]

yes i think dubai should be included.

I am not saying Poland Hungry are "third-world"..personally i dont like the term, but here in this thread it clearly refers to "developing countries"..poland and hungry are not quite developed, but they are close.

[You are to blame]

just say developing countries instead of 3rd world, because it is more political correct and acceptable to those here

[Menino de Sampa]

I doubt any of these cities is first worldish. Buenos Aires with it's more than 0,9 HDI is the one which comes closer.

[Sexas]

How beautiful Tibet is
http://classpic8.chinaren.com/album/pic/542/933/2817034544990933542/110338924453672.jpg

Tibet will become China's Alaska with untouch beauty and people going there by truckload.

[Sir Rene]

Monterrey for sure.


skyline
http://img20.echo.cx/img20/6303/806tecycentro7ti.jpg
http://img20.echo.cx/img20/4858/fac3129djpgorig15wg.jpg
http://img20.echo.cx/img20/8176/vodic039hi.jpg
http://www.iespana.es/arkhacity/sk.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p86a0a91cc227c5cabdc7e9f6515ddd43/fbd36f47.jpg

[Harkeb]

It's a vague question. But I suppose a distinction between 1st & 3rd is made by looking at factors like squatter camps, and other social ills overall in the city. I don't know how the other cities fare, but Johannesburg & Cape Town have luxurious rich estates that even big '1st world cities' can dream of. These cities also have 1st world economies and infrastructure. Sadly the cities' riches do not get to the majority of their populations, which live off poor salaries. Hence the numerous squatter camps as many people simply cannot afford proper housing.

[Latin l0cO]

Monterrey for sure.
Yeah Monterrey deserves to be there over Mexico City since it has a larger per captia and higher in HDI ranking. Infact I think it has the highest HDI out of all latin america.

[Diboto]

As some of our colleagues have said, the term "third-world" is not adequate for use anymore. The right term should be "developing nations".

Also, countries like Chile, where the percentage of people living below the povertry line is as low as 17% can't be put into the same group as countries like India or similar ones, where as many as 60 or 70% of the people are poor. Therefore, countries such as Chile, Argentina, Malaysia, Poland, etc... should no longer be considered underdeveloped countries, but rather developing economies... No Third world nations, get rid of that term.

[_alonso_]

Warsaw and Budapest in third world countries ? :bash: :weird: :crazy2: :? :hammer:

:hahaha: what a resentfulness;)

[_alonso_]

http://classpic6.chinaren.com/album/pic/542/933/2817034544990933542/110339144172791.jpg

is that local railway system?;)

[Sen]

no but a railway is being built as we speak.

[km-sh]

is that local railway system?;)
Tibet will have their railway soon,It's the higheast and most difficult project

[_alonso_]

^^^ so was does that thing supposed to mean?

[km-sh]

in order to protect animals in Tibet,the railway built as a viaduct.
http://www.ieeec.com/360/0box360/0000004442/htm/0410/3001_0001_431617_10_10_04_0000004442_00004_1.jpg
http://www.tsedu.net/leting/03gzjy/neirong/tbja/images/a038gj15.jpg

[km-sh]

http://www.tibetradio.cn/040616xzdt/pic/087.jpg http://www.chinatibetnews.com/media/200408/02/NewsMedia_3371.jpg http://image2.sina.com.cn/dy/s/2004-10-01/U397P1T1D4479063F21DT20041001221638.jpg

[_alonso_]

so nobody is going to answer the question: "what do these wooden rails symbolize"?;)

[Azn_chi_boi]

^ thats good that the railroad wont be on land, to have an effect on the ecosystem..

Good for Tibet.

Bring on some more world cities pics...

[km-sh]

so nobody is going to answer the question: "what do these wooden rails symbolize"?;)
sorry，maybe some use，BUT i dont know:(

[ejd03]

HK isn't even on the list...

that's because HK is not a third world

[Azn_chi_boi]

Isnt Hong kong back to China, thats why its call

"Hong Kong, China"

[km-sh]

Isnt Hong kong back to China, thats why its call

"Hong Kong, China"
HK will keep a independent economy for 50 years

[Sen]

the title of the thread clearly states "country"..

[Sir Rene]

Krakow, Budapest as well.

[cello1974]

None. All this First World City stuff is just a propaganda for the mayors. Actually, NO big city in the 3rd World is 1st World. Some of the smaller ones come closer... Like Londrina in Brazil for example.

[V80]

chinese cities..

[tasiemiec]

List of Countries of the Third World:
from www.nationsonline.org

Afghanistan :: Algeria :: Angola :: Antigua and Barbuda :: Argentina :: Azerbaijan
Bahrain :: Bangladesh :: Barbados :: Belize :: Benin :: Bhutan :: Bolivia
Botswana :: Brazil :: Brunei :: Burkina Faso :: Burma (Myanmar) :: Burundi
Cambodia :: Cameroon :: Cape Verde :: Central African Republic :: Chad :: Chile
Colombia :: Comoros :: Congo (Brazzaville) :: Congo (Kinshasa) :: Costa Rica :: Cote d'Ivoire :: Cuba
Djibouti :: Dominica :: Dominican Republic
East Timor :: Ecuador
Egypt :: El Salvador :: Equatorial Guinea :: Eritrea :: Ethiopia
Fiji
Gabon :: Gambia, The :: Ghana :: Grenada :: Guatemala
Guinea :: Guinea-Bissau :: Guyana
Haiti :: Honduras
India :: Indonesia :: Iran :: Iraq
Jamaica :: Jordan
Kenya :: Kiribati :: Korea (South) :: Kuwait
Laos :: Lebanon :: Lesotho :: Liberia :: Libya
Madagascar :: Malawi :: Malaysia :: Maldives :: Mali :: Mauritania :: Mauritius
Mexico :: Micronesia :: Morocco :: Mozambique
Namibia :: Nauru :: Nepal :: Nicaragua :: Niger :: Nigeria
Oman
Pakistan :: Palau :: Palestine :: Panama :: Papua New Guinea :: Paraguay :: Peru :: Philippines
Qatar
Rwanda
Saint Kitts and Nevis :: Saint Lucia :: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines :: Samoa
Sao Tome and Principe :: Saudi Arabia :: Senegal :: Seychelles :: Sierra Leone :: Singapore :: Solomon Islands :: Somalia :: South Africa :: Sri Lanka/Ceylon
Sudan :: Suriname :: Swaziland :: Syria
Taiwan :: Tanzania :: Thailand :: Tibet :: Togo :: Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago :: Tunisia :: Tuvalu
Uganda :: United Arab Emirates :: Uruguay
Vanuatu :: Venezuela :: Viet Nam (South)
Yemen
Zambia :: Zimbabwe

[Phobos]

Krakow, Budapest as well.

Krakow and Budapest are third world cities :?
Please explain you comment...

[Diboto]

List of Countries of the Third World:
from www.nationsonline.org

Afghanistan :: Algeria :: Angola :: Antigua and Barbuda :: Argentina :: Azerbaijan
Bahrain :: Bangladesh :: Barbados :: Belize :: Benin :: Bhutan :: Bolivia
Botswana :: Brazil :: Brunei :: Burkina Faso :: Burma (Myanmar) :: Burundi
Cambodia :: Cameroon :: Cape Verde :: Central African Republic :: Chad :: Chile
Colombia :: Comoros :: Congo (Brazzaville) :: Congo (Kinshasa) :: Costa Rica :: Cote d'Ivoire :: Cuba
Djibouti :: Dominica :: Dominican Republic
East Timor :: Ecuador
Egypt :: El Salvador :: Equatorial Guinea :: Eritrea :: Ethiopia
Fiji
Gabon :: Gambia, The :: Ghana :: Grenada :: Guatemala
Guinea :: Guinea-Bissau :: Guyana
Haiti :: Honduras
India :: Indonesia :: Iran :: Iraq
Jamaica :: Jordan
Kenya :: Kiribati :: Korea (South) :: Kuwait
Laos :: Lebanon :: Lesotho :: Liberia :: Libya
Madagascar :: Malawi :: Malaysia :: Maldives :: Mali :: Mauritania :: Mauritius
Mexico :: Micronesia :: Morocco :: Mozambique
Namibia :: Nauru :: Nepal :: Nicaragua :: Niger :: Nigeria
Oman
Pakistan :: Palau :: Palestine :: Panama :: Papua New Guinea :: Paraguay :: Peru :: Philippines
Qatar
Rwanda
Saint Kitts and Nevis :: Saint Lucia :: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines :: Samoa
Sao Tome and Principe :: Saudi Arabia :: Senegal :: Seychelles :: Sierra Leone :: Singapore :: Solomon Islands :: Somalia :: South Africa :: Sri Lanka/Ceylon
Sudan :: Suriname :: Swaziland :: Syria
Taiwan :: Tanzania :: Thailand :: Tibet :: Togo :: Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago :: Tunisia :: Tuvalu
Uganda :: United Arab Emirates :: Uruguay
Vanuatu :: Venezuela :: Viet Nam (South)
Yemen
Zambia :: Zimbabwe

What a stupid list. First of all, as many of us have already said, the term third-world is becoming inadequate/obsolete. Instead, these countries should be called either underdeveloped or developing.... and the list is way too general.

According to that, the world has been divided into two categories. In reality, some of those countries are way more similar to the industrialized world than to the ones at the bottom of the list (i.e. African and south/ southeast asian countries such as Laos, Cambodia...).

For example, how different is a country such as Chile compared to Spain? it is certainly waaay way more similar than to a country such as Zimbabwe.

:bash:

[HirakataShi]

Instead of first, second, and third world (since the Cold War ended long ago) maybe we can replace them with the terms "first world/developed, developing, and least developed"? Least developed = per capita GDP < $1000.

And why is Cape Town but not Johannesburg listed? Joburg is much wealthier and more developed than Cape Town is, despite the common perception than Johannesburg = crime infested hole; Cape Town = paradise on Earth.

[Küsel]

A good attempt, but GDP alone doesn't say anything. First it's only an economical measurement as the name of the thread says: the disparity between primate cities and rural areas are in many countries huge. Same goes for regions: South Italy vs Milano area, Sao Paulo vs Sertao, Hong Kong vs Tibet etc etc. A combination with the HDI would be a better option.

Developping Country is also a term that can be misunderstood because if a country doesn't develop anymore the decline is near - "Old Europe" ;) for example, but also the US have to take care. China, India, Brazil, Central-Eastern Europe and the Middle East are "highly devellopping" countries. The losers are unfortunatly anyway most African countries - still waiting for a never-to-come "take-off" :(

[geminiguy7]

Jakarta in Indonesia

[Alex Pox]

List of Countries of the Third World:
from www.nationsonline.org

Afghanistan :: Algeria :: Angola :: Antigua and Barbuda :: Argentina :: Azerbaijan
Bahrain :: Bangladesh :: Barbados :: Belize :: Benin :: Bhutan :: Bolivia
Botswana :: Brazil :: Brunei :: Burkina Faso :: Burma (Myanmar) :: Burundi
Cambodia :: Cameroon :: Cape Verde :: Central African Republic :: Chad :: Chile
Colombia :: Comoros :: Congo (Brazzaville) :: Congo (Kinshasa) :: Costa Rica :: Cote d'Ivoire :: Cuba
Djibouti :: Dominica :: Dominican Republic
East Timor :: Ecuador
Egypt :: El Salvador :: Equatorial Guinea :: Eritrea :: Ethiopia
Fiji
Gabon :: Gambia, The :: Ghana :: Grenada :: Guatemala
Guinea :: Guinea-Bissau :: Guyana
Haiti :: Honduras
India :: Indonesia :: Iran :: Iraq
Jamaica :: Jordan
Kenya :: Kiribati :: Korea (South) :: Kuwait
Laos :: Lebanon :: Lesotho :: Liberia :: Libya
Madagascar :: Malawi :: Malaysia :: Maldives :: Mali :: Mauritania :: Mauritius
Mexico :: Micronesia :: Morocco :: Mozambique
Namibia :: Nauru :: Nepal :: Nicaragua :: Niger :: Nigeria
Oman
Pakistan :: Palau :: Palestine :: Panama :: Papua New Guinea :: Paraguay :: Peru :: Philippines
Qatar
Rwanda
Saint Kitts and Nevis :: Saint Lucia :: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines :: Samoa
Sao Tome and Principe :: Saudi Arabia :: Senegal :: Seychelles :: Sierra Leone :: Singapore :: Solomon Islands :: Somalia :: South Africa :: Sri Lanka/Ceylon
Sudan :: Suriname :: Swaziland :: Syria
Taiwan :: Tanzania :: Thailand :: Tibet :: Togo :: Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago :: Tunisia :: Tuvalu
Uganda :: United Arab Emirates :: Uruguay
Vanuatu :: Venezuela :: Viet Nam (South)
Yemen
Zambia :: Zimbabwe
Taiwan and South Korea are on the list?! That's surprising...
And Tibet is there too...While China isn't...I don't know what the Americans are thinking about...

[tasiemiec]

When people talk about the poorest countries of the world, they often refer to them with the general term Third World, and they think everybody knows what they are talking about. But when you ask them if there is a Third World, what about a Second or a First World, you almost always get an evasive answer. Other people even try to use the terms as a ranking scheme for the state of development of countries, with the First world on top, followed by the Second world and so on, that's perfect - nonsense.

The use of the terms First, the Second, and the Third World is a rough, and it's safe to say, outdated model of the geopolitical world from the time of the cold war.

A Typology (from Wikipedia)
Countries are often loosely placed into four categories of development:
1. Developed countries ( Canada, United States, European Union members, Japan, Israel, Australia, etc.)
2. Countries with an economy consistently and fairly strongly developing over a longer period (China, India, Brazil, South Africa, Costa Rica, Mexico, Egypt, much of South America, etc.)
3. Countries with a patchy record of development (most countries in Africa, Central America, and the Caribbean excepting Jamaica (category 2); much of the Arab world falls in this category)
4. Countries with long-term civil war or large-scale breakdown of rule of law or non-development-oriented dictatorship ("failed states") (e.g. Somalia, Sudan, Burma, perhaps North Korea)


Third World today
The often used term "Third World" today mostly referes to underdeveloped or better developing countries.
The less-developed or least-developed regions (the standard United Nations designation) stand in contrast to "more-developed regions" which comprise North America, Japan, Europe and Australia-New Zealand.
Less-developed regions comprise almost all regions of Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean, Asia, and the Pacific Islands of Melanesia, Micronesia and Polynesia.
"Least developed countries" for example are Afghanistan, Chad, Ethiopia, Uzbekistan, Yemen, and Zambia.

from : http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/index.html :sly:

[fttd]

some European Union members are not developed at all

[_alonso_]

some European Union members are not developed at all

for example?

[tasiemiec]

for example?

You have outstripped me :)

[sentosa]

Hong Kong belongs to a third world country, but itself is a first world society.
Australia is a first world country, but even here, there are definitely third world regions such as some Aborigines' area.

[km-sh]

so China and Russia are first world countries,at least in politics

List of Countries of the Third World:
from www.nationsonline.org

Afghanistan :: Algeria :: Angola :: Antigua and Barbuda :: Argentina :: Azerbaijan
Bahrain :: Bangladesh :: Barbados :: Belize :: Benin :: Bhutan :: Bolivia
Botswana :: Brazil :: Brunei :: Burkina Faso :: Burma (Myanmar) :: Burundi
Cambodia :: Cameroon :: Cape Verde :: Central African Republic :: Chad :: Chile
Colombia :: Comoros :: Congo (Brazzaville) :: Congo (Kinshasa) :: Costa Madagascar :: Malawi :: Malaysia :: Maldives :: Mali :: Mauritania :: Mauritius
Mexico :: Micronesia :: Morocco :: Mozambique
Namibia :: Nauru :: Nepal :: Nicaragua :: Niger :: Nigeria
Oman
Pakistan :: Palau :: Palestine :: Panama :: Papua New Guinea :: Paraguay :: Peru :: Philippines
Qatar
Rwanda
Yemen
Zambia :: Zimbabwe

[FutureLOTpilot]

some European Union members are not developed at all

I beg to differ.

[Azn_chi_boi]

" Palestine " is the new name of Israel or just a portion of Israel that is its "own country"?

Thailand, India, South Africa isnt a third world countries that is on the poll,Bangkok, Cape Town, Mumbai and New Delhi respectively.

[lester]

so China and Russia are first world countries,at least in politics


ahhhh.....for politics, China should be counted as the second bottom.

[Zarkon]

SHANGAI

[Q-TIP]

Eastern chian may be Industralized, but Western China(Tibet) is hardly industralizied.

Russia.... maybe a third world country because.... of Siberia?

Name cities in those regions (Siberia) and (Tibet)? Should not define the whole country as un-industrialised. All cities ARE located in indutrialised areas, otherwise it wouldnt be a city!

All those countires are not 3rd world....I so hate using that term. Its developing nations as opposed to industrialised/ developed nations....

[H@rv]

Malaysia is not a 3rd world country lol got the highest tertiary employment in asia
developing fast

definetly Kuala Lumpur

[Locust]

where is Dubai in the list??

[Muyangguniang]

:: Sierra Leone :: Singapore :: Solomon Islands :: Somalia :: South Africa :: Sri Lanka/Ceylon

Ahumm... Singapore is not one of Countries of the Third World i guess, because it is a very rich country

[antofasky]

Santiago de CHile and Buenos Aires!! ;)

[HirakataShi]

The EU would not accept a member if it were not developed. But on the continent of Europe, there are definately countries with abysmal economic and human develoment records, eg: moldova, albania, belarus.

[AcesHigh]

many smaller cities are the most developed in Brasil. Not the most INDUSTRIALIZED. There is a difference between being highly industrialized and highly developed.

[Vince]

Ignorant to think that these cities are all belonging to third world countries. Ever heard of newly industrialised nations or developing nations? In fact many of these cities are more developed than ghetto places with homelessness in the developed world. Anyway, many parts of supposedly "developed" cities like Hong Kong has third world districts. And if you consider China a third world, then Hong Kong should be a third world city, as it is under the autonomous rule of China.

[ChinaboyUSA]

I am not so sure about who started the poll here about the 'Third World'...after the cold war, are we still using it?

Also, today's world is a multi-sided one, for example,
when you put China as the third world, it must be a joke today.
I agree with the developing and developed countries category.

China is the biggest developing country in the world with
the fastest speed.
Cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and some other coastal cities and oil cities have already stepped in a developed society's scope,
though the rural areas still far behind them.

So, I don't think this poll is a proper one to start and I won't put any more comments on it then.

Peace

[samsonyuen]

Buenos Aires and Cape Town, if I had to choose.

[superchan7]

the "three worlds" has become a very outdated and overly simplistic way to classify countries. it's much more accurate and objective to measure the scale of development, and even so, it's hard to classify something such as china, with its immense scale of change and the glaring wealth gaps between urban and rural.

[OtAkAw]

I'm tired of hearing the term "THIRD WORLD". It makes me feel pity for my country and makes me lose my national pride.

[jmancuso]

ok, i changed it to "developing world" now...so lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya.

[superchan7]

KUUUMBAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Nongkhai_tong]

Hongkong

what's worng! I think Hongkong is not the developing country but already developed

[Alfred]

My recent visits to latin scrapers has tought me a lot.

Santiago de Chile gets my vote.
They have the newest VOLVO busses as public transport system which uses same smartcard as the subway system, which btw, is very modern with 3G and wLAN coverage.

Digital telecom systems for it's telephony rates chile higher than most developed nations....the PPP PIB of chile is the highest, not far from Greece or Portugal.
2 decades of continued growth is clearly showing results!
Chile is leapfrogging! Global ranking of competitive economies places chile nr 19

Has also a developed world credit rating "A"

Tel-Aviv gets my second vote

[carry_a_torch]

My recent visits to latin scrapers has tought me a lot.

Santiago de Chile gets my vote.
They have the newest VOLVO busses as public transport system which uses same smartcard as the subway system, which btw, is very modern with 3G and wLAN coverage.

Digital telecom systems for it's telephony rates chile higher than most developed nations....the PPP PIB of chile is the highest, not far from Greece or Portugal.
2 decades of continued growth is clearly showing results!
Chile is leapfrogging! Global ranking of competitive economies places chile nr 19

Has also a developed world credit rating "A"

Tel-Aviv gets my second vote
Santiago is a little small

[Alfred]

Santiago is a little small

stockholm has less than 2 million.
santiago has 5

[carry_a_torch]

1.Shanghai 54 45.00%
2.Kuala Lumpur 35 29.17%
3.Mexico City 33 27.50%
4.Shenzhen 32 26.67%
Buenos Aires 32 26.67%
6.Beijing 29 24.17%
7.Santiago 28 23.33%
8.Sao Paulo 26 21.67%
Rio de Janeiro 26 21.67%
Bangkok 26 21.67%

[Latin l0cO]

My recent visits to latin scrapers has tought me a lot.

Santiago de Chile gets my vote.
They have the newest VOLVO busses as public transport system which uses same smartcard as the subway system, which btw, is very modern with 3G and wLAN coverage.

Digital telecom systems for it's telephony rates chile higher than most developed nations....the PPP PIB of chile is the highest, not far from Greece or Portugal.
2 decades of continued growth is clearly showing results!
Chile is leapfrogging! Global ranking of competitive economies places chile nr 19

Has also a developed world credit rating "A"

Tel-Aviv gets my second vote
Your rescent visit to the latinoscraper forums was hated everyone. You entered there with a completely biased about CHile and nearly spoke bad of all the other latino nations You are completely biased towards Chile and you keep referring to the "Smart Cards" thing. I don't think this makes a city first world material.

[Alfred]

Your rescent visit to the latinoscraper forums was hated everyone. You entered there with a completely biased about CHile and nearly spoke bad of all the other latino nations You are completely biased towards Chile and you keep referring to the "Smart Cards" thing. I don't think this makes a city first world material.

everyone? I've over 40 PM's with many of you, all nice.

[cello1974]

1.Shanghai 54 45.00%
2.Kuala Lumpur 35 29.17%
3.Mexico City 33 27.50%
4.Shenzhen 32 26.67%
Buenos Aires 32 26.67%
6.Beijing 29 24.17%
7.Santiago 28 23.33%
8.Sao Paulo 26 21.67%
Rio de Janeiro 26 21.67%
Bangkok 26 21.67%
What do these numbers mean? :weirdo:

[sdtj]

Alfred, if Santiago is so good why don't you go live there?


You are super biased period.

[cello1974]

If so, it could be Brasília having an HDI of 0.943 points, São Caetano do Sul with 0.921 points and other smaller ones.

[sdtj]

^

Proof?

[cello1974]

^

Proof?
Since the table alone cannot be hotlinked, you will have to look for it here (http://www.emplasa.sp.gov.br/metropoles/indice_de_desenvolvimento.asp) This is for São Paulo. The other will follow. :cheers:

[sdtj]

Thank you cello1974, I will check it out...

:)

[cello1974]

This is for Brasília (http://www.distritofederal.df.gov.br/005/00502001.asp?ttCD_CHAVE=1621) :cheers:

[cello1974]

Unfortunately, the figures are from 2000, since authorities are slooooow to put new data on-line!

[♣628.8m]

Chile: Puerto Montt, Valdivia, Santiago.
Argentina: Bariloche?

[SRG]

Mmmn...

I'm thinking like Johannesburg or Cape Town.

Well maybe not. South Africa cities are actually pretty nice. It's the black townships you gotta avoid. I still am pissed at pre-Mandela South African segregation. Pretty barbaric in my own views, but in actuality, South African cities have some very nice areas, and of course some really dangerous slums.

But is South Africa a developing country? I dunno. Johannesburg IS the New York of Africa. Such a center for commerce and trade for a whole continent, no matter what continent. And then, South African cities really do have amazing skylines.

[SRG]

In that poll, Mexico City, Santiago, Cape Town... and especially Buenos Aires are truly lovely cities.

[Desven]

Cape Town is definitely a first world city!

[AcesHigh]

many small towns in southern Brasil are first world... 100% literacy, sanitation, etc, etc.

[Menino de Sampa]

many small towns in southern Brasil are first world... 100% literacy, sanitation, etc, etc.


hahahaha... of course they are. First world cities MUST have plus than 0,900 HDIs. The only brazilian small town which fits in this category is Aguas de São Pedro.

[♣628.8m]

Southern Brazil? Looks like an extension of Portugal on Latin America, but sadly much poorer. Yet comparing Lisbon with Blumenau you would only say Blumenau is a bit worse than Lisbon, but not a lot worse.

Actually Chile is near first-world in many aspects: Corruption, Economic growth, Life expectancy, sanitation(World class standard I would say, at least in newer parts of Santiago and Puerto Montt), yet pollution is a big concern, also immense contrast of income between rich and poor... better than Brazil but still not developed in those poor suburbs... unpaved roads are common in rural/poorer suburban Chile.

[♣628.8m]

Third World? A bit antiquated term I guess (cold war time) :) So let's say developping countries... and even that is a bit vague. But anyway most of the economy is based there in one major primate city. And the regional disparities are enourmous. Typical example: LAGOS, Nigeria.

From the list maybe Shenzhen - but China is not a "first world", means capitalist country as modern as the city may look...

But Lagos is just on the track of Northeastern Brazil. :lol:

Shenzhen? From those pics I would say it's near developed--- I bet its HDI is around 0.850

And about Brownsville, Texas? I'm not sure, could also be around 0.850.
Miami, Jacksonville, Jackson, Biloxi, New Orleans, Baton Rouge... Most Southern US cities and rural regions have average HDI around 0.85-0.90, that's the level of developing countries. But suburbs of Minneapolis, Boston or most parts of Minnesota, Wisconsin, or even North Dakota and Iowa, or in the northeastern US, the HDI could reach 0.945-0.97, Almost the best in the planet. So it seems it's equally easy to find third world cities in first world countries.

[SHiRO]

People need to stop bumping up months old threads like this...

[Faz90]

Moscow, Shenzhen, and Dubai

[Faz90]

People need to stop bumping up months old threads like this...
What's wrong with doing that?

[ejd03]

Wait, China and Russia count as 3rd World Countries? I didn't know that.

China is 2nd world.. which means that they are "communist"

[deli]

guangzhou & mexico city

[jd_bond]

As some of our colleagues have said, the term "third-world" is not adequate for use anymore. The right term should be "developing nations".

Also, countries like Chile, where the percentage of people living below the povertry line is as low as 17% can't be put into the same group as countries like India or similar ones, where as many as 60 or 70% of the people are poor. Therefore, countries such as Chile, Argentina, Malaysia, Poland, etc... should no longer be considered underdeveloped countries, but rather developing economies... No Third world nations, get rid of that term.

I can understand how much you know about world.. Anyway, even China has less poverty compared to Chile...

[ChicagoSkyline]

I say out of those cities, Shanghai IMHO has the best potential to be the first world class city in these developing cities, but not isn't a warrant since I can't tell the future and I only reflect it based on progresses of these developing cities made. To become a world city, it takes time! :)

[Diboto]

I can understand how much you know about world.. Anyway, even China has less poverty compared to Chile...

:weirdo:

[SungIEman]

Eastern chian may be Industralized, but Western China(Tibet) is hardly industralizied.

Russia.... maybe a third world country because.... of Siberia?

what FM meant is that Russian and China (along with eastern european nations) should be 2nd world since they were both communist countries during Cold War.

but I agree, 1st 2nd and 3rd world just doesn't work, plus it encourages discrimination =/

[Citygazer83]

Hong Kong

That's it.

[jd_bond]

:weirdo:


And you are a moron because you don't know a shit about any other country in the world. By the way, try world bank website. Indian poverty level is 29% (and not 60-70% you were mentioning). It's good to make your country look nice, but it's dumb to put wrong, illogical figures...

[Sauvalle]

None of them..maybe Santiago is the closest.
I agree :cheers:

[shibuya_suki]

hongkong
if only consider its wealthy,its already first world city

[Sauvalle]

Actually Chile is near first-world in many aspects
are you chilean? you seem to know a lot about my country :)

and jd_bond please don't start calling ppl moron, that attitude will surely get you banned. let's all be civilized and sing "KUMBAYA" hehe. btw China has almost no middle class. they are eather rich or very poor. Chile has this year surpassed every other south american countries in PIB.
Chile is the only country in south america with invitations to nafta and the eu. Also Chile is ranked pretty good overall and therefor also a target for the EMU, meaning the euro. Anyway I hope all the best for the developing nations. good luck

[YelloPerilo]

^^

30% of the people in China are considered middle class ... just a bit more than almost no middle class. :sleepy:

[Desven]

Dubai

UAE is not a thirdworld country

[ChinaboyUSA]

^^

30% of the people in China are considered middle class ... just a bit more than almost no middle class. :sleepy:

Who told you that!

http://download.shanghaining.com/events/05nye.wmv

Try to paste it to you url if you cannot view it!

[Effer]

Shenzhen.

[Dubai_Boy]

Dubai and Abu Dhabi :D

[ZOHAR]

Buenos Aires&Moscow

[Andrew]

Dubai and Abu Dhabi :D
Huh? Dubai and Abu Dhabi are first world cities in a first world country. UAE isn't a developing country is it?!

[Dubai_Boy]

Dubai and Abu Dhabi are first world cities in so many ways , but not fully

so i guess they are still developing :D

[Sauvalle]

UAE is not a thirdworld country
oh yes it is. though economically you might be pretty close, the exagerated use of the ancient coran is keeping you from fully evalving.

[Dubai_Boy]

So your saying the UAE is third world becasue the majority of people living their are muslims ?

Is rome thirld world then :D ?

[Sauvalle]

Dubai_boy: I will not argue with you. Specially on such OBVIOUS matters.

[Dubai_Boy]

But you see "child" , when your old enough to actually deal with people face to face , you cant simply go up to people , insult them , their country , their identity and relegion and simply say i wont argue with you because thats just the way it is

i know this is the internet , but we are real people here , and i need an explanation from you

[Andrew]

If UAE is not classed as a first world country then why is it building 7* hotels that do not and cannot make a profit as well as various "world's largest", "worlds tallest" and "world's first" things that cost literally billions of dollars. There's enough wealth in the country to build these things, if there are still people living in poverty then there must be a massive failure in government. Of course this wealth may be in the hands of private developers and if they're the ones building all these mega projects then I cannot criticise them for building them. After all, they can do what they like with their money. However, if taxes from such projects are not going towards the poor then there is a problem with the way things are being run.