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GNU
September 22nd, 2005, 02:42 PM
Here are two proposals for a new main trainstation in Munich.

Vote for your favourite!!

This is the proposal which is favoured by the "Deutsche Bahn"

http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/Galerie/data/503/18HBF_1.jpg


and this is the proposal which is favoured by the city of Munich

http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/Galerie/data/503/18HBF_2.jpg


which one do you like best?

GNU
September 22nd, 2005, 02:55 PM
I voted for the first proposal. It looks much better than the second.

By the way:
this would be the entrance hall for the first proposal:

http://www.gkk-architekten.de/bauten/verkehr/338/img/bild2.jpg

GNU
September 23rd, 2005, 01:25 PM
wow! 39 views but only 4 votes!

kota16
September 23rd, 2005, 01:50 PM
I like the first one by DB.

Skoulikimou
September 23rd, 2005, 05:07 PM
i like the design made by Deutsche Bahn

James Foong
September 23rd, 2005, 07:19 PM
I vote for the design favoured by city of munich.

cello1974
September 24th, 2005, 01:05 AM
The first one! The second looks so 'basic'... ;)

cphdude
September 25th, 2005, 01:04 PM
^^ i agree with that....

Arpels
September 26th, 2005, 03:35 PM
the first one :yes:

Berrtus
September 27th, 2005, 09:52 PM
The first proposal! Dutch design!

crawford
September 27th, 2005, 11:25 PM
What's wrong with the current HBF? The current terminal is very functional and fairly attractive for a postwar station.

If I had to choose, I would go with the second proposal.

GNU
September 28th, 2005, 02:21 PM
The first proposal! Dutch design!

Its actually the proposal of the architectural bureau Gewers Kühn + Kühn (Berlin)

the second one is from Auer + Weber Architekten (München)

GNU
September 28th, 2005, 02:34 PM
What's wrong with the current HBF? The current terminal is very functional and fairly attractive for a postwar station.

If I had to choose, I would go with the second proposal.

Yes its functionally,but its generally an outdated station.And I really wouldnt call it attractive.
The Deutsche bahn is currently building and renovating a lot of Germanys bigger and smaller stations.
they want to improve the quality for the traveller,since the competition, mainly from low cost airliners has risen.

the current station:

http://www.net4.com/muenchen-in-5-stunden/13bahnhof/8bahnhof-aussen.JPG
http://www.ljungi.com/images/artikel/1086868163Hbf1.jpg
http://felix.pfefferkorn.de/pics/muenchen/hbf/variant/medium

Berrtus
September 28th, 2005, 06:55 PM
The first proposal looks like the design of the dutch bureau Benthem Crouwel, one of the three winners.

http://www.fsw-info.de/projekte/projekt0007/doc/ergebnis.php?pr_id=7&menuewahl=4&uebersicht=/basic/projekte_akuell.php?
the one design bij Gewers, Kuhn und Kuhn doesn't look like the first proposal;

http://www.architectenweb.nl/aweb/redactie/redactie_detail.asp?iNID=1922&iNTypeID=27

GNU
September 29th, 2005, 02:50 PM
^^wow! great! thx for the info.

But if go to the official website of Gewers,kuehn and Kuehn you find the proposal which I posted.

http://www.gkk-architekten.de/

Its a little confusing.
But I think their proposal looks a little different than the dutch one.

Jonesy55
September 29th, 2005, 03:15 PM
The DB proposal is muchmore attractive to me. The second one looks like an airport terminal building.

Justme
October 1st, 2005, 05:45 PM
Where would this be located in Munich? And what will become of the current station.

At this stage, I can't vote, as I need more information on services and design, and more renderings, especially inside both in the atrium and main train hall.

spyguy
October 1st, 2005, 06:04 PM
The first is great.

OettingerCroat
October 1st, 2005, 06:06 PM
to me the first one looks like an office tower or convention center, and the second does look like an airport terminal. neither look like train stations. whats wrong with the current one? i like it.

Sonic from Padova
October 1st, 2005, 06:44 PM
Deutsche Bahn

GNU
October 3rd, 2005, 01:18 PM
Where would this be located in Munich? And what will become of the current station.

At this stage, I can't vote, as I need more information on services and design, and more renderings, especially inside both in the atrium and main train hall.

Im not 100 percent sure,but I would say it should be at the same location of the old station? or atleast near to it as all the railtracks are there.
speaking of the railtracks,there are plans to put them underground so the resulting space could be used for city development projects.

But I cant find more renderings.I have been searching but I didnt find any more pics.

Justme
October 3rd, 2005, 01:23 PM
^ Interesting. This however, is starting to sound like the fabled and "never to be seen" Frankfurt 21 project, where the train lines were also meant to be moved underground and the terminus becoming a through-station. The theory being that the marshelling yards can be sold off to realestate. It has been a dream for a long time, but I can't see it ever happening in my lifetime.

Stuttgart also has a "21" project. It seems more real because there is a major exhibit at the current train station showing how it would look when finished. But in reality, just another pipe dream I fear.

GNU
October 3rd, 2005, 01:52 PM
yes I know of both the projects in Stuttgart and Frankfurt.
whilst I think that it will probably never happen in Frankfurt and maybe even munich,I could very well imagine that it could become reality in Stuttgart.(even though it will take ages)
stuttgart is in need of office spaces (as far as I know).
Frankfurt and Munich arent,so that could be a reason why it will probably not be realised very soon.

Btw: heres the link to the thread in the german DAF-forum:
http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=2109
its all in german but maybe you get some more information there. ;)

Justme
October 3rd, 2005, 02:46 PM
^ yes, they have started some of the surrounding projects in Stuttgart. The train station project is amazing. Just wish they would start that as well.

Max BGF
October 7th, 2005, 01:24 AM
Stuttgart 21 on SSC (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=201380)

muc
October 7th, 2005, 01:57 AM
This project is only about replacing the front building with the main entrance. The train hall itself with the platforms and railway tracks will stay more or less like it is (as far as I am informed).

There is a project called "München 21" which involves moving the tracks to the underground but I doubt it will be realized in near future, if at all.

Justme
October 7th, 2005, 08:30 AM
^ That's a pity as the train shed in Munich is nothing special and quite unattractive. Looks a bit like the roof over a factory floor.

j4893k
October 8th, 2005, 04:59 AM
First one. Looks a lot more modern.

Paulo2004
October 8th, 2005, 06:40 PM
Both are nice. Probably the city council reckons that the 1st proposal is too high and too big for the area it will be constructed in.


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