Trump Tower Toronto | U/C | 62 st | 280.1 m | Downtown

[Jaye101]

http://www.gamblegroup.com/img/DJTmodel_96dpi.jpg

325 m / 1,066 ft
Approved

[myredhotcar]

Imagine how cool it would be it TT was the color of the donald's tie! I love pink; fuscia etc! A pink condo tower; how refreshly different!

[trumptoronto]

Jeez. Could there be a more positive thread out there? If it were dead... I wouldn't still be working on it and the sales office would be closed. This board just always amazes me with its negativity (with a few thankful exceptions).

I've been working on this project for 3 years now and for 3 years, between the media, the Toronto real estate industry and folks on this board, our team has always had such resistance and negativity thrown our way. And yet, since we opened for sales 2 years ago, we've sold more real estate $-value than any other condo development in Toronto. Yet, the negativity and rumours still flow from some in TO. There are folks who for some reason do not want this project to succeed. It baffles me. This is a Toronto-based development team, and a project that will employ many during its construction and many more following completion. Like other Trump properties, this building will become a tourist draw as well. And that is a bad thing for Toronto?

The hurdles that have been overcome for this project to have reached the stage that it is at are remarkable. And honestly, sales have been going very well as of late. All I can say is stay tuned. We're doing everything we can to make this building a reality.

[Taller, Better]

^^ Well, you got that right. No shortage of people here who, for whatever their agenda, want to see things fail in this town. Maybe it is just easier to live in the past for people who are afraid of our city evolving or maybe they can't shake the insecurities and baggage they carry around with them. Maybe it is just easier to think small. In any case, I'm glad to hear from you and I am glad to hear the project is online!

[CrazyCanuck]

I think people are just impatient, that it is all. This is one of those city defining buildings that get built only so often, I can't fathom why people would suggest it is dead just because we haven't heard a sales figure. I believe that people just want to hear a start construction date so it would calm their nerves.

[valantino]

"our team has always had such resistance and negativity thrown our way. And yet, since we opened for sales 2 years ago, we've sold more real estate $-value than any other condo development in Toronto. Yet, the negativity and rumours still flow from some in TO. There are folks who for some reason do not want this project to succeed. "

You honestly don't know why? To me, to the fans, and to anyone else in the industry it's pretty damn obvious

[Waterloo_Guy]

this building will become a tourist draw as well.
You're kidding, right?

[caltrane74]

Why wouldn't it be a tourist draw. 5 star hotel, Trump name and the Tallest residential in the country. Thats just naming a few.

[Martinsizon]

trumptoronto i got a question, What will go on the bottom floor(retail..)?

which floor will the 5 star restaurant be(if there was one planned cant remember)?

link to first thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=175973&page=1

[monkeyronin]

From the rendering, it looks like it'll just be a lobby, though I'll let trumptoronto answer that. I do like the way it meets the street though. nice and simple, not some huge podium like other towers in the financial district.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9731/trumprenderingzeidlerjf1.jpg

[CrazyCanuck]

That's because the site is too small for a podium, and besides a big podium does not seem neccessary for a project of this stature. There are some places where ground floor retail or townhouses just seem inappropriate.

[valantino]

the ground floor is mostly allocated towards loading facilities and a drop off area - unavoidable with building such a large development on so small a site. I doubt there will be any space for street related retail

[monkeyronin]

Being a hotel though (a five star, at that), having retail in the lobby (resturants, bars, etc.) woulds be very, very likely.

[trumptoronto]

The bottom floor will consist of the main hotel lobby and a separate lobby entrance for residents. There will also be a sushi restaurant/martini bar off to the side of the lobby. Unfortunately, because of the loading/unloading/traffic area, we lose a lot of ground-floor space, and thus not enough room for any retail. Parking will be on levels 2-7 and the 8th floor will have the admin. offices. There will be two restaurants on the 9th floor: a casual restaurant and a five-star/fine-dining restaurant. And the 10th floor will be the business centre and meeting rooms.

trumptoronto i got a question, What will go on the bottom floor(retail..)?

which floor will the 5 star restaurant be(if there was one planned cant remember)?

link to first thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=175973&page=1

[Jaye101]

^^ Oh that's cool, I'm sorry but I just can't wait for this to happen. :D

[Scruffy88]

its a good looking tower and its refreshing to see a thousand footer that doesnt cheat to get its height. a la spires

[Dino Domingo]

The wait is gruelling!

[Taller, Better]

But it will be tooooooooooooootally worth it when it comes! ;)

[Waterloo_Guy]

I'm not that excited, but Trump will be a nice compliment to the new BA Centre across the street.

[Martinsizon]

The bottom floor will consist of the main hotel lobby and a separate lobby entrance for residents. There will also be a sushi restaurant/martini bar off to the side of the lobby. Unfortunately, because of the loading/unloading/traffic area, we lose a lot of ground-floor space, and thus not enough room for any retail. Parking will be on levels 2-7 and the 8th floor will have the admin. offices. There will be two restaurants on the 9th floor: a casual restaurant and a five-star/fine-dining restaurant. And the 10th floor will be the business centre and meeting rooms.

thanks for answering TT

[zerokarma]

Glad to see a new thread was created for this, the old thread was like beating a dead horse.

[valantino]

^^don't mock it til you try it

[Taller, Better]

^^ and the bonus is they can't fight back!!

[camel_trainer]

The negativity is annoying. I think it's because there are so many people in here who think they are smarter than everyone else. Really, many of them are just cowards who hide behind a screen name that gives them false confidence. Predicting failure is the easiest thing in the world to do. Cynics are a dime a dozen. F**k 'em.

I'd love to see this incredible building in my city and I hope it works out. I think a lot of people in the city will be very excited to see this happen.

[Jackhammer]

^^^^ Well said.

:applause:

[Martinsizon]

it had to be told

[valantino]

The negativity is annoying. I think it's because there are so many people in here who think they are smarter than everyone else. Really, many of them are just cowards who hide behind a screen name that gives them false confidence.


What are you smokin'?

Isn't TrumpToronto hiding behind a screen name and not the dozens of industry experts that have expressed concerns on the validity of this project with all the secrecy enveloping it.





Predicting failure is the easiest thing in the world to do.

HUH? most definitely not in our market

[Jackhammer]

What are you smokin'?

Isn't TrumpToronto hiding behind a screen name and not the dozens of industry experts that have expressed concerns on the validity of this project with all the secrecy enveloping it.







HUH? most definitely not in our market
I think he is refering to the unthinking masses who state their negative opinions because they get some odd self gratification out of saying "I told you so" when the bad does happen.

Being positive or "hopeful" as camel trainer said does not equate to ignorance. Some people see the glass if half full while others see it as half empty. No doubt the fluids for this tower's glass are hovering right around the middle.

[Taller, Better]

Canadians do, traditionally, thrive on watching other Canadians who take a chance fail. Americans were not traditionally like this and they encouraged people to think big
and take chances. You see a lot of this automatic pessimism in the local press- people
seem primed for risk-takers to fail. In a way it is representative of online contests for the ugliest building in Toronto.... instead of the most beautiful building in Toronto. A lot of people prefer the negativity.

[valantino]

^I know exactly what he meant

personally, I find all this blind optimism annoying but, in almost all cases, have refrained from deriding without provocation those who do not share my more cautious approach

can't imagine how boring a place this would be if all ideally shared the same half full mentality

[Toronto06]

Jeez. Could there be a more positive thread out there? If it were dead... I wouldn't still be working on it and the sales office would be closed. This board just always amazes me with its negativity (with a few thankful exceptions).

I've been working on this project for 3 years now and for 3 years, between the media, the Toronto real estate industry and folks on this board, our team has always had such resistance and negativity thrown our way. And yet, since we opened for sales 2 years ago, we've sold more real estate $-value than any other condo development in Toronto. Yet, the negativity and rumours still flow from some in TO. There are folks who for some reason do not want this project to succeed. It baffles me. This is a Toronto-based development team, and a project that will employ many during its construction and many more following completion. Like other Trump properties, this building will become a tourist draw as well. And that is a bad thing for Toronto?

The hurdles that have been overcome for this project to have reached the stage that it is at are remarkable. And honestly, sales have been going very well as of late. All I can say is stay tuned. We're doing everything we can to make this building a reality.

show me something tangible that shows three years worth of work

and i (and many many others) stop bein negative towards this project

:)

[Taller, Better]

show me something tangible that shows three years worth of work

and i (and many many others) stop bein negative towards this project

:)

Why bother?

[Taller, Better]

^I know exactly what he meant

personally, I find all this blind optimism annoying but, in almost all cases, have refrained from deriding without provocation those who do not share my more cautious approach

can't imagine how boring a place this would be if all ideally shared the same half full mentality

Or half empty .. also gets boring! ;)

[Jackhammer]

can't imagine how boring a place this would be if all ideally shared the same half full mentality

True, but it is a bit of an oxymoron to come onto a skyscraper site and be flag bearers for project failures. Perhaps they should join www.detachedbungalows.com.

[rbt]

show me something tangible that shows three years worth of work

Lots of projects, perhaps even a majority, are around for 3 years before they even get onto the market let alone well into construction.

The Four Seasons plan was well underway in late 2004 when the existing building was sold to the Saudi Prince (negotiations, actual sale happened later). In April 2005 we found out about the plans for the new hotel. Meaning all of the finances, partnerships, etc. would have been worked out by that time.

Lining up Menkes, Lifetime, and Halcyon as co-developers in the new Four Seasons Hotel would take some time.

Good chance the Prince had staff doing a feasibility study before SARS hit.

[Taller, Better]

There is really nothing anyone can do but wait and see which way it goes. The project is not dead (as people three months ago were claiming) and it is not a 100%
guaranteed "Go". Everything else at this point is just conjecture. As far as we have been told, the project is viable and going ahead. People saying they know otherwise are just guessing.

[trumptoronto]

[QUOTE=valantino]What are you smokin'?

Isn't TrumpToronto hiding behind a screen name and not the dozens of industry experts that have expressed concerns on the validity of this project with all the secrecy enveloping it.

Hiding behind a screen name? No more than anyone else here. What are you infering?

"Industry experts" in Toronto seem to be negative towards anything that involves a bit of risk... until it becomes succesful despite them, and then they jump on the bandwagon. Look, we've had doubter's from the very beginning. Yet, we've been very succesful in spite of the naysayers.

And secrecy? What secrecy? No more than any other project. We just haven't taken the smoke and mirrors approach to getting a building developed. We have a much more business-minded approach with this building rather than using traditional developer-over-stating-bravado. We don't believe in making statements unless there is truth behind it.

Sure, we're hopeful of hitting certain sales milestones, but it doesn't always go according to plan. This is a $500-million building. It is both a larger and more ambitious undertaking than any other building under development in Toronto. Things don't always go in a straight line towards completion. But we're moving in the right direction.

Truthfully, we have sold more of the hotel condominiums than we initially expected, while the residential sales grew slowly. But as of late, as the viablity of the project has become much more certain, the residential sales pace has picked up considerably. It's all good. And honestly, I'm feeling much more certain that this building will start construction soon. A lot of pieces to the puzzle have to fall into place, but it's looking very promising. When we have an announcement to be made... I'll let you all know.

[orangeman]

What does any of this have to do with the Trump Tower development. My wish is that any and ll posts that have nothing to do with the TT could be deleted (inclusing this post of mine) leaving a fresh and informative thread.

[CanadianN00b]

Thank you TrumpToronto for that very enlightening update, as I for one am greatly looking forward to such an exciting development for such a wonderful city. Please feel free to keep us up-to-date! :)

[Taller, Better]

What does any of this have to do with the Trump Tower development. My wish is that any and ll posts that have nothing to do with the TT could be deleted (inclusing this post of mine) leaving a fresh and informative thread.


??! What are you talking about? Of course they are about the Trump Tower!

[Grey Towers]

I think people become understandably skittish when a building's construction is continuously delayed, as has happened with Trump. There's a lot of smoke and no fire.

[InTheBeach]

Time for a beer. :cheers:

[valantino]

^^six pack too late

[camel_trainer]

What are you smokin'?


Valantino, smarten up. I think you know exactly what I was saying in my post.

It's easier to knock something down than to build it.

It's easier to say "That'll never work" than it is to say "That could be great."

It's easier to say "The system is f**ked beyond repair" than it is to try to repair it.

The point is, it's ALWAYS easier to take the negative route rather than the positive one. That's why cynics are a dime a dozen. Because it's easy to be a cynic. Cynics are just cowards who open their mouths.

Only positive action gets things done. All great achievements have been made by people who believed that something was possible, often in the face of tremendous cynicism.

I am not blindly optimistic. I said I would love to see Trump built. That's not blind optimism, that's hope.

There are people on this forum who just sit back and say "this will never be built," because perhaps cutting something ambitious down helps them feel better about their own lot in life. I don't know. They say this about all kinds of projects. These predictions are usually just verbal diarrhea with no basis in fact.

We know cynicism doesn't actually contribute anything, so why maintain an outlook that has never achieved a single thing in the history of the world? You don't have to be blindly optimistic about everything, because that makes you a fool. But why be needlessly negative? It's f**king annoying to listen to all the time.

P.S. - Since you asked, I happen to smoke small amounts of exceptionally high quality herb grown by a friend at his home in the Peterborough area.

[Taller, Better]

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It's easier to knock something down than to build it.

It's easier to say "That'll never work" than it is to say "That could be great."

It's easier to say "The system is f**ked beyond repair" than it is to try to repair it.

The point is, it's ALWAYS easier to take the negative route rather than the positive one. That's why cynics are a dime a dozen. Because it's easy to be a cynic. Cynics are just cowards who open their mouths.

Only positive action gets things done. All great achievements have been made by people who believed that something was possible, often in the face of tremendous cynicism.

I am not blindly optimistic. I said I would love to see Trump built. That's not blind optimism, that's hope.

There are people on this forum who just sit back and say "this will never be built," because perhaps cutting something ambitious down helps them feel better about their own lot in life. I don't know. They say this about all kinds of projects. These predictions are usually just verbal diarrhea with no basis in fact.

We know cynicism doesn't actually contribute anything, so why maintain an outlook that has never achieved a single thing in the history of the world? You don't have to be blindly optimistic about everything, because that makes you a fool. But why be needlessly negative? It's f**king annoying to listen to all the time.

P.S. - Since you asked, I happen to smoke small amounts of exceptionally high quality herb grown by a friend at his home in the Peterborough area.

I have to say I agree with this statement 100%, and it rather nicely sums up some of the serial pessimism about so many issues on our forums the past few months. I once knew a girl whose grandfather was a professional debater in Quebec. He said the most difficult part of debating was to take the part of positive criticism. The laziest, and easiest type of debating is negative criticism because that is what most people have the most practice at.

This project may wind up not being built.. but what frightens me is the amount of sheer glee out there if that is the case.

[phunky]

i'd rather see something else built than trump simply because i don't like the design.

[Jaye101]

Speak the truth Camel_Trainer!

[Tuscani01]

i'd rather see something else built than trump simply because i don't like the design.

Agreed, I only like it because of the height... I was hoping Sapphire would beat it.

[CrazyCanuck]

i'd rather see something else built than trump simply because i don't like the design.

Are you kidding me??? The design is amazing, and you know this will be a quality building, no cheap puts here. That green glass is going to sizzle!

[phunky]

Are you kidding me??? The design is amazing, and you know this will be a quality building, no cheap puts here. That green glass is going to sizzle!
yes i'm sure it will be a quality building. however i just do not like the design. i like the podium though. i think the thing that bothers me the most about it is the roof and spire. i just feel it doesn't fit in our skyline at all.
however let me say i am NOT anti-trump tower like some people....

[valantino]

have to say I agree with this statement 100%, and it rather nicely sums up some of the serial pessimism about so many issues on our forums the past few months

hey I agree but its rather biased towards one side - both extremes are equally annoying, non-constructive and frequently show up on the forums - which was basically my point albeit in a drunkin' stupur sort of way

concerning Trump

My 'cynicism' towards it being built is based on evidence from valued collegues --- of course I've never considered your perspective where both Valantino and trumptoronto are unknowns --- and taking into consideration our maturing marketing, I'm 'blindly optimistic' that in the event of its demise, a new tower with alot more architectural merit will promply take its place

[valantino]

Are you kidding me??? The design is amazing, and you know this will be a quality building, no cheap puts here. That green glass is going to sizzle!

limestone and glass do improve the asethetics but it is still a banal, a decade outdated, postmodern design

[camel_trainer]

hey I agree but its rather biased towards one side - both extremes are equally annoying

Very true.

[Taller, Better]

hey I agree but its rather biased towards one side - both extremes are equally annoying, non-constructive and frequently show up on the forums - which was basically my point albeit in a drunkin' stupur sort of way

concerning Trump

My 'cynicism' towards it being built is based on evidence from valued collegues --- of course I've never considered your perspective where both Valantino and trumptoronto are unknowns --- and taking into consideration our maturing marketing, I'm 'blindly optimistic' that in the event of its demise, a new tower with alot more architectural merit will promply take its place

Thankfully, due to the assistance of a team of Brahmas that night, I was fully able to decipher all drunken stupors! :scouserd: You have waaay more knowledge of the field and of this specific project but I still hope it goes ahead. There is a good chance you are right but I won't say "uncle" til the fat lady sings. The serial pessimism I referred to was due to redhotcar and friends who were determined to crap on every project.
As for the Trump Tower, I don't find it dated, or ugly at all. In fact just the opposite I think it will be a superb addition to the cluster. When I look at this, I don't see "ugly"-

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4377/trumptorontoul7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[camel_trainer]

It's just not fair when the Brahmas travel in teams. Ordinary people don't stand a chance against a team of frothing Brahmas.

The ancients left upon cave walls chilling heiroglyphs depicting entire villages slain by teams of wild Brahmas.

[Taller, Better]

It's just not fair when the Brahmas travel in teams. Ordinary people don't stand a chance against a team of frothing Brahmas.

The ancients left upon cave walls chilling heiroglyphs depicting entire villages slain by teams of wild Brahmas.

I put up a valiant fight against the herd that night.. they were frostily attacking me from the left and the right. I won in the end... I think...but I can't really remember...

[zerokarma]

In fact just the opposite I think it will be a superb addition to the cluster. When I look at this, I don't see "ugly"-


I agree I think it will look great and will be a welcome addition to our downtown skyline.

[InTheBeach]

Valantino, smarten up. I think you know exactly what I was saying in my post.

It's easier to knock something down than to build it.

It's easier to say "That'll never work" than it is to say "That could be great."

It's easier to say "The system is f**ked beyond repair" than it is to try to repair it.

The point is, it's ALWAYS easier to take the negative route rather than the positive one. That's why cynics are a dime a dozen. Because it's easy to be a cynic. Cynics are just cowards who open their mouths.

Only positive action gets things done. All great achievements have been made by people who believed that something was possible, often in the face of tremendous cynicism.

I am not blindly optimistic. I said I would love to see Trump built. That's not blind optimism, that's hope.

There are people on this forum who just sit back and say "this will never be built," because perhaps cutting something ambitious down helps them feel better about their own lot in life. I don't know. They say this about all kinds of projects. These predictions are usually just verbal diarrhea with no basis in fact.

We know cynicism doesn't actually contribute anything, so why maintain an outlook that has never achieved a single thing in the history of the world? You don't have to be blindly optimistic about everything, because that makes you a fool. But why be needlessly negative? It's f**king annoying to listen to all the time.

P.S. - Since you asked, I happen to smoke small amounts of exceptionally high quality herb grown by a friend at his home in the Peterborough area.

You could have been a man of few words, and just said that entropy sucks.

Any fans of the 2nd law of thermodynamics out there? Put your hands up!

In short, it takes energy to maintain order. Without energy, all systems will reduce to a state of chaos, disorder.

So, that is why we have so many cynics out there.

Your speech has inspired me. Let's tear down the Gardiner.

[camel_trainer]

decided against posting drunken bullshit.

[Marcanadian]

I'm tired of waiting. C'mon Trump!

[KGB]

I think the Trump design is definetely somewhere south of tour de force, but I don't think anything too wild would suit the big cluster of MINT. It will be different enough to add to it without standing out too much, either aestetically, or height wise. Saphire would have really looked a bit oddball in its last incarnation that lost approval at city hall.

Trump has languished on the market...one... because it is selling product far above the average condo price in Toronto. And let's face it, if Toronto condos all sold for the same price as its Chicago, NYC or Euro counterparts, we would NOT be in the boom we are. Remove every condo that sells for under $400k, and there wouldn't be much left.

Two...it's in an untested location, and three...it isn't being done by Toronto-savy condo developers (hey, the name Trump may be a bigger detractor than it is a selling point).

The fact that it hasn't started construction yet, in a city that averages a much quicker sales-to-construction time, gives it a also-ran reputation, even though it isn't entirely fair, as it is a different animal from the normal condo building.

It had it's moment in the sun, and hasn't seemed to capitalize on it...now it's old news. Worse, it now has competition from the Ritz's and Four Seasons, which do seem to have capitalized on their momentum much better (ok, 4 Seasons hasn't started marketing yet, but when they do I predict they will sell quicker, based on the better home-town name and location).

And when you start getting over-shadowed by action from your infamous neighbour..."The Stump", you know you are in trouble.

Trump may become the new Stump...even the name change won't require much work.






KGB

[Canadian Chocho]

The Stump Tower, sounds funny, lol!

[DrT]

The Vancouver Sun has an article today delineating The Donald's sales tactics to get people to sign up for his real estate "apprentice" course he calls Trump U. Very pathetic, bordering sheisterism. Really turned me off. The guy will do or say anything for a buck.

[Canadian Chocho]

Hey I just like the tower!

[LordMandeep]

the hotel part is 80% sold out in the trump...
http://p083.ezboard.com/ftorontoskyscraperforumfrm4.showMessageRange?topicID=5085.topic&start=121&stop=140

[Martinsizon]

There are 291 hotel units and 147 residential units.

[Martinsizon]

From yyzer in UT:

hmm..here's part of an e-mail sent to GTA-area real estate agents today.....only 10 residences left?

Dear /agent/, with construction plans for Canada's first historic Trump property soon to be announced, now is the time to act if you want to help your clients maximize their investment potential. Prices will continue to increase steadily over the next few months and will rise considerably once construction begins.

Yet, there are still great deals left to be found at Trump Toronto. Deals we're sure your clients will want to know about.

These 10 remaining residential suites represent an outstanding luxury real estate value!

Just 10 residential condominiums remain on levels 35-40. Starting at only $1.9 million (CAD), these suites are an outstanding value for a Trump property in the heart of the city.

Featuring dramatic floor-to-ceiling panoramic views of downtown Toronto, Lake Ontario and the CN Tower, and full access to Trump International's renowned five-star services and amenities, these very special residences epitomize the Trump Lifestyle.

Choose from three amazing and spacious floor-plans ranging from 2,353- to 3,241-sq. ft. and priced from $1.9 to $2.6 million (CAD).

These spectacular residences feature 11-foot high coffered ceilings, floor-to-ceiling windows, exquisite finishes, gourmet designer kitchens with Miele and Sub-Zero appliances, Kohler Kallista fixtures, secure, direct-access elevators, SkyLobby concierge, two chauffeured S-Class Mercedes' for residents only, and of course, full access to the hotel’s 24-hour five-star services and amenities.

The Residences at Trump International Hotel & Tower, Toronto are elegance and luxury defined and represent an outstanding investment value when compared to similar properties in other leading cities in the world.

A total deposit of only 20% of the purchase price is required to secure one of these spectacular suites—paid in three installments over 12 months.

[zerokarma]

hmm... interesting, trumptoronto on the other board is saying things are very busy behind the scenes now, I wonder if we'll be hearing the contstruction schedule news very soon

[gbrett]

I was looking forward to this building being erected. Looking at the main cluster from the Hanlon pt ferry, I think it needs much more depth and height. Here's hoping?!?

[Canadian Chocho]

Hehe, he said erected!

[skouby]

WOW! This is great news. Looks like this buiding will be going up after all.

To all you naysayers and doubters I hope this will finally shut you up!

[Rockefeller]

Hehe, he said erected!

It's a pretty big erection too!

[Canadian Chocho]

Biggest in the city! :D

[Waterloo_Guy]

Biggest in the city! :D

Not quite

[InTheBeach]

Hopefully all this talk isn't premature ejaculation.

[Canadian Chocho]

Oh yeah, I forgot of mister 21 785 inch!

[zerokarma]

Is there any new news?

[Taller, Better]

Maldive over in SSC dropped a bomb tonight, with a claim that Trump was announcing a start date on Dec 16!

[Jaye101]

Ahhh, so exciting.

There are supposedly 10 Residntial units remaining and 80% of the hotel suites are sold.

[phunky]

^^^ wow. i can't wait to see this thing go up. i've always wanted to watch a huge tower get built and finally now i do!

[Martinsizon]

^^ same here, so excited

[Robin155]

Did you have a link to it? Thanks

[SHORTY]

Maldive over in SSC dropped a bomb tonight, with a claim that Trump was announcing a start date on Dec 16!

What is her source?

[Taller, Better]

What is her source?

I asked, but no reply yet. He/she is working on an amazing future rendering of the TO skyline, and just out of the blue said: "(plus Trump which believe it or not will announce a start Dec. 16)".

[camel_trainer]

I still can't believe it until I see the first storey being erected. (HmmmphnmnmmHeeheeheeheehee! GOD, I hope I never grow up.) But once it starts to go up, I think this will be one of those buildings that actually looks better than the renderings.

I say that for several reasons: One, because it's going to alter the main cluster of skyscrapers and forever change the skyline we all know. It will be a case of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. Two, the way the building changes from the street to the spire is enhanced by its great height and that just can't be imagined from a rendering. All the glass in the top half will reflect the sun and be quite dramatic.

I have my fingers crossed for this one. I really think this could benefit the city in ways we won't see until it is up. My hope is that it will open the floodgates for other CBD residential tower projects. How great would it be to go to the CBD area at night and actually have it be ALIVE?

[ZZ-II]

when should be construction start?

[Homer J. Simpson]

I think this call for atleast one dancing banana. :banana:

[Mike in TO]

Construction on Dec 16... or a news conference announcing construction on Dec 16?

[Taller, Better]

I read from SSP that an announcement would be made on Dec 16 regarding a starting date. God I hope it is true and not just a cruel joke.

[TObermuda37]

If this does happen as the speculation thinks, I will so laugh my face off with joy! Merry Christmas to all the naysayers in the Toronto thread who were so sure it would not happen.

With reference to the person who said Donald is just lending his name to this project, as far as I remember it, he is not only lending his name to the project, he does have a small interest. Remember, many people are buying based on the name first and also on the quality of the project.

Just MHO.

[Taller, Better]

I'm still hearing in the back of my mind the parable about counting chickens before the eggs hatch. I am keeping my Krug lightly chilled til celebration time is upon us ;)

Also if Dec 16 rolls by with no announcement, I do not want to be tarred and feathered for
deseminating misinformation! ;) I remain "cautiously optimistic"!

[Canadian Chocho]

What a nice Christmas present!

[Martinsizon]

where is trumptoronto to confirm this

[KGB]

I am keeping my Krug lightly chilled til celebration time is upon us



Yea...I'm feeling that while we have plenty of great projects going on constantly, we are getting a little bored with the usual forty-something story condo towers. A thousand footer is definetley needed to inject a little life back into the skyline fan in Toronto.

I think despite Trump being somewhat iffy in terms of design, we will be more than willing to overlook this little detail at this point. I don't think the project is going to be cancelled, and I think it's nearing the time when the thing will actually start construction...so I see a nice little X-mas prezzy for us.

I think 2007 will also be a good year for some other big towers as well.






KGB

[valantino]

Taller? Why? couldn't have kept it to yourself until a week before?

[Taller, Better]

Taller? Why? couldn't have kept it to yourself until a week before?


LOL!! This was just too juicy a titbit to chew on all alone! Maldive has confirmed that something definitely is gonna happen....:gossip:

[valantino]

yeah ... probably a new release of suites

[Martinsizon]

do you have a link to the ssp where he says it

[Taller, Better]

It is in the Canada section in one of those retarded polls "Top Skylines (in Canada) Opinion" which rather predictably boils down to Name your favourite city, then list other cities you hate the least. You know, lot's of bragging and penile measurements. No more mention than what I quoted, though... but Maldive is also working on a wicked future TO rendering. Here is the entire spiel:

This is a work in progress ... an old shot of Toronto with some new projects added. Many of the groovy ones like Shangri-la haven't been attempted yet.

because it's an old shot, you see lots of missing buildings like Infinity etc. but nevermind

The object of the exercise is to try to render u/c projects (plus Trump which believe it or not will announce a start Dec. 16) in a very believable composite.. no ridiculous effects to hide or enhance the additions... just "what it might really look like".

Bear in mind this is a very low rez draft but feel free to zoom in and comment.

If you think this project is worth continuing.. let us know. Lots of groovy buildings still to come.

http://upside-down.ca/sdphotos/inprogress2.jpg

[valantino]

^wow

she's pretty good

[Taller, Better]

Yes... she blew the cobwebs off that juvenile Best City Skyline crap, that's for sure. Gotta love the people who rate Toronto's skyline the 4th best in Canada!:lol: I hope she doesn't mind my
showing her creation here. It has created quite a stir on SSP.

[Jaye101]

Is Telus really going to appear that large?.. And that's a hell of a picture.

[Taller, Better]

She indicated the creation was new, and she was just working on it. I think she will refine the details. It is mindblowing, though. But Telus is over 30 storey's, right?

[Robin155]

December 16 is a Saturday. Why would they make an announcemnt on Saturday?

[valantino]

what's wrong with Saturday?

granted there are better days to do it however it's not like Saturday is the day to sit at home, eating ice cream, and reflect on mistakes made which I'm sure she will be doing if nothing happens

POINTZ:
Trump does come off as a busy man
Only seven days to a week
Over 1000 feet tall
Conservatives are in power
Anyone other than a newbie knows not to kid around with Trump Toronto

[Mike in TO]

To add fuel to the fire an advertorial in Post Homes states that sales have hit the $230 million mark.

[Taller, Better]

I'm ferclempt with excitement!! But I will patiently wait til the 16th....

[Martinsizon]

i didnt know the x would be that noticable since it is far away,:applause: good job maldive

[Skybean]

Nice render "Maldive" (It's quite obvious who he/she is.. as it has been revealed on the forum multiple times). Without an actual announcement, I remain skeptical.

[elliot]

OK cut the CIA crap... where the hell have you been (bean)? Still in HK?

[Martinsizon]

Nice render "Maldive" (It's quite obvious who he/she is.. as it has been revealed on the forum multiple times). Without an actual announcement, I remain skeptical.

wht r u talking about who is obvious?

[Taller, Better]

^^ Yeah, who is Maldive that has been previously revealed?

[valantino]

so what about the rendering - any updates?

[Ed007Toronto]

It is in the Canada section in one of those retarded polls "Top Skylines (in Canada) Opinion" which rather predictably boils down to Name your favourite city, then list other cities you hate the least. You know, lot's of bragging and penile measurements. No more mention than what I quoted, though... but Maldive is also working on a wicked future TO rendering. Here is the entire spiel:

Nice work. Taller, Better you have a link to the actual thread as I can't find it on SSP? I'd like to give Maldive a personal congratulations.

[Martinsizon]

^^ http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=118572&page=10

[valantino]

I saw a thread in the Ontario section devoted to the talented lady - SSP isn't currently working for me so I can't provide a link

[zerokarma]

So is there any real confirmation for that date yet or is that it?

[Martinsizon]

where is trumptoronto to confirm it!!!!

Can someone who registeerd for trump email or phone the sales office to confrim the date :)

[elliot]

Rudy, I can honestly say you are just plain hilarious.... you crack me up. Definitely the funniest fellow on any of these boards. Mind you, I'm probably the only one that knows it! :applause:

[Martinsizon]

I saw a thread in the Ontario section devoted to the talented lady - SSP isn't currently working for me so I can't provide a link

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=119064

[ZZ-II]

Construction on Dec 16... or a news conference announcing construction on Dec 16?

great to hear that

[SpatulaCity]

Rudy, I can honestly say you are just plain hilarious.... you crack me up. Definitely the funniest fellow on any of these boards. Mind you, I'm probably the only one that knows it! :applause:

you're not the only one... ;)

[ale26]

I'm soooo excited to hear about this thing taking off:) i thought it wasn't gonna happen at first but now im hoping all this is true:banana:

[Taller, Better]

Rudy, I can honestly say you are just plain hilarious.... you crack me up. Definitely the funniest fellow on any of these boards. Mind you, I'm probably the only one that knows it! :applause:

What did Rudy say that was 'funny'? I can't find it... sort of like searching through Tess of the d'Urbervilles trying to find the spot where she got poked!

[valantino]

^^where's those self proclaimed psyche abilities of yours


didn't like my AreBe impression on the previous page (personally, I don't find it that great either)



back to topic

any updates on the rendering or further information on Trump? It's being about a week

[Buster]

What did Rudy say that was 'funny'? I can't find it... sort of like searching through Tess of the d'Urbervilles trying to find the spot where she got poked!

Ha Ha! I actually enjoyed reading that book. . .poor ol' Tess.

I always have a good laugh reading posts.

[elliot]

Something crossed my desk recently that suggested something like this:

$240 million in sales plus many months of negotiations with international financiers=

"Firm financing announcement in days (week and a half max). Firm financing is the reason there will be a construction start announcement in mid-December. Financing. Construction."

This seems quite logical to me.

[Taller, Better]

^^where's those self proclaimed psyche abilities of yours


didn't like my AreBe impression on the previous page (personally, I don't find it that great either)




Ah.... well, I guess I am only slightly psychic, as I was erroneously focusing on "I saw a thread in the Ontario section devoted to the talented lady - SSP isn't currently working for me so I can't provide a link" and failed to find the alleged humour!! Just like I never did narrow down exactly the moment poor Tess lost her honour.......:lol:

[valantino]

^ah ... don't be so hard on yourself

[Martinsizon]

Something crossed my desk recently that suggested something like this:

$240 million in sales plus many months of negotiations with international financiers=

"Firm financing announcement in days (week and a half max). Firm financing is the reason there will be a construction start announcement in mid-December. Financing. Construction."

This seems quite logical to me.

thats enough proof for me to expect there will be a construction date to be announced in mid-december

[WinnipegPatriot]

If Chicago can get theirs built, then dammit, Toronto can too!

[Martinsizon]

ina an ad it said "we are going to do something very special in Toronto" with very special in italics, and then the usuall pre constuction prices ending soon. adds fuel to the fire dont it(or whatever it's callled???) :)

[Marcanadian]

Yes, Trump Toronto no longer has a spire, but a giant combover as a finish. :)

[Canadian Chocho]

^^ You scared me for a sec, then made me laugh.

[Taller, Better]

^^ You scared me for a sec, then made me laugh.

same here!! LOL!:)

[iliamo]

im glad to see trump toronto going up. it'll be awesome to see such a tall project going up in toronto in a while and i've never seen a supertall under construction:P. about the dec 16 conference, will trump himself be there and is it public? cant wait for this!

[phunky]

ina an ad it said "we are going to do something very special in Toronto" with very special in italics, and then the usuall pre constuction prices ending soon. adds fuel to the fire dont it(or whatever it's callled???) :)

ever since they announced this building they've said "we are going to do something very special in Toronto"... so that's nothign new to me.

[zerokarma]

Let's not get too excited just yet, there is no real confirmation of anything yet.

[Taller, Better]

^^True! Poor Maldive will be getting obscene pm's if it turns out to be false!
Probably I will too, for spreading the rumour!!:lol:
Oh well, obscene pm's could be kinda fun too....

[valantino]

^unless she turned it off

[Taller, Better]

Well... I guess we will just have to wait til Dec 16 to see if Santa is going to be good to us!

[trumptoronto]

Just wanted to let you know that "yes" there will be an official announcement coming very soon. Sorry to be cryptic, but I can't give any details just yet. What I can say is that things are looking very positive.

[Taller, Better]

Hmmmmm... cryptic, but heartening! I have a red circle around the 16th...

[Martinsizon]

^^ same here

[TObermuda37]

Well, where are all the naysayers now? Cannot seem to find one.

I am thrilled to see this going forward. I knew that it would because even though he has a bad combover, the man would not put his name on a project if he did not have some confidence in it.

Seems that he had more faith than many people in this forum did. Oh well. Congrats and I am glad to see Toronto changing so vastly like it did back in the eighties.

[valantino]

"Well, where are all the naysayers now?"

realestatejunkie got banned


I for one am pleased to see life (still rather see something better built) but was also hoping to take a few shots at this Maldive character (stress relieving, local driving range closed for the winter)

[Taller, Better]

"Well, where are all the naysayers now?"

realestatejunkie got banned


I for one am pleased to see life (still rather see something better built) but was also hoping to take a few shots at this Maldive character (stress relieving, local driving range closed for the winter)


Try Brahma!! Most stress relieving:cheers: !!

Funny you mentioned realestatejunkie.... I was thinking of him yesterday, and of myhotredcar.

In any case, the Trump will be good for Toronto, and good for the skyline. I'm happy it (apparently) will be going through. I'd love to get into one of the units when it is built, just to have a look around. Can you imagine the view that close to the cluster?

[Waterloo_Guy]

Can you imagine the view that close to the cluster?

I imagine the view will suck. You don't get a skyline view when you are part of the skyline; and in one of the densist parts of the city, you will only see walls of neigbouring highrises.

[camel_trainer]

I imagine the view will suck. You don't get a skyline view when you are part of the skyline; and in one of the densist parts of the city, you will only see walls of neigbouring highrises.

That's completely untrue. The view is the best there. Unless you are completely butted against another building there is plenty to see. Just look at the photos taken from the TD Centre and some of the other bank towers. Breathtaking.

[elliot]

Rudy, what hell did you just say... are you really in Calgary? Has your brain frozen? What? What did you say? ;-)

[Taller, Better]

I imagine the view will suck. You don't get a skyline view when you are part of the skyline; and in one of the densist parts of the city, you will only see walls of neigbouring highrises.

Whoooo so not true! Go to Canoe some clear night and you will get a small sample of what I am talking about. The walls of the neighbouring highrises look amazing at night. All those buildings down there have great views... this is from the TD bank:

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/163/may2706tdcentreviewsviiri5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Waterloo_Guy]

Point taken.

[camel_trainer]

Nice example, Taller. That view only has one tower in it so there is more to see than some other views, but at night neighbouring towers are glimmering columns of light that are beautiful in their own way. I would love to have a view like that.

[caltrane74]

Im so excited. And I just cant Hide it. Im doing the nuetron dance.

[Taller, Better]

Nice example, Taller. That view only has one tower in it so there is more to see than some other views, but at night neighbouring towers are glimmering columns of light that are beautiful in their own way. I would love to have a view like that.



I'll never forget the first time I went to Canoe... it doesn't have the best view of surrounding buildings, but you do get to see BCE Place. You are so right... the glimmering columns of light are very exciting... it looks completely different close up and in real life than it does from afar.

Im so excited. And I just cant Hide it. Im doing the nuetron dance.

Hmmmm... here I was thinking you are just a young whippersnapper, caltrane! LOL! That song goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back!

[elliot]

Pointers?

[Taller, Better]

Pointers?

Yup! Pointer Sisters, 1984.

[InTheBeach]

...anyone guess the movie that it was in...

[scholasticus]

...anyone guess the movie that it was in...

beverly hills cop 1

[neilio]

oh shit look who's back...

[Waterloo_Guy]

Yup. Thank god he never finds the development page.

[Waterloo_Guy]

Oh, wait. I spoke too soon.

[Martinsizon]

notice that the public schools(atleast in peel) have a day off today

somebody has no friends

[caltrane74]

I'm half your age Taller....

Cerill is still a sperm though.

[valantino]

^older than Valantino75

[valantino]

"Thank god he never finds the development page."

posting the same photo over and over again in each thread is just so stupid - time consuming with little effect (except maybe for the moderators)

[caltrane74]

I was thinking the other day, dogs have leashes. Sometimes its good to have leashes for kids.

Kids do stupid stuff and they run all over the place.

I have a leash for Cerill.


- Back on Topic.


Cant wait for the Annoucement of A Lifetime on The Trump Tower. Lets cross our fingers.

[Taller, Better]

I somehow suspect our lil' buddy TorontoLubber never really left us. Something has just caused another angry little outburst!! Maybe he has been frustrated of late! LOL! I think it
is so funny that he can post industriously away for an hour and a half, and it
takes a mod 30 seconds to delete ALL of his sweaty little postings! Haahaaa!

[Canadian Chocho]

^^ Damn, did I miss a Torontolover re-incarnation?

[Taller, Better]

Oh yeah. He slaved for hours posting ridiculous nonsense, and it was all erased in a nanosecond with the wave of a mod's hand! LOL! It is kind of funny to see the sweaty little idiot waste his afternoon to have it all cancelled in a trice! As usual, he infected my photoblog too.. (methinks I am not in his good books!!) :hilarious

[Canadian Chocho]

LOL!!

[InTheBeach]

That song goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back!

BTW, is that two songs??

I mean, I think it is two songs. Not that I am a fan or anything (Barry Manilow is more my thing).

[Taller, Better]

BTW, is that two songs??

I mean, I think it is two songs. Not that I am a fan or anything (Barry Manilow is more my thing).

You know, you are right, it is two separate songs! Neutron dance and I believe another PS song. It is all a blur from so many years ago!

[neilio]

Oh yeah. He slaved for hours posting ridiculous nonsense, and it was all erased in a nanosecond with the wave of a mod's hand! LOL! It is kind of funny to see the sweaty little idiot waste his afternoon to have it all cancelled in a trice! As usual, he infected my photoblog too.. (methinks I am not in his good books!!) :hilarious

anybody who is of different sexual orientation, different race, different religion, ethnic background, hair style or anybody with something even romotely resembling a BRAIN is not in this guys good books. :P

[zerokarma]

Just wanted to let you know that "yes" there will be an official announcement coming very soon. Sorry to be cryptic, but I can't give any details just yet. What I can say is that things are looking very positive.

Excellent news!

[HLH]

Trump International Hotel & Tower, Toronto has now finalized contruction financing. On January 5, 2007 they intend to apply to the City of Toronto for site plan approval and building permits. Construction start is scheduled for July 2007.

[Taller, Better]

Trump International Hotel & Tower, Toronto has now finalized contruction financing. On January 5, 2007 they intend to apply to the City of Toronto for site plan approval and building permits. Construction start is scheduled for July 2007.


Excellent news! :banana: Better late than never.
Who are you, HLH?

[zerokarma]

Awesome!

[DrT]

Who are you, HLH?
First post to tell us what we've all been dying to know.
Yes, who are you? Maybe it's V of E in disguise.

[ZZ-II]

Trump International Hotel & Tower, Toronto has now finalized contruction financing. On January 5, 2007 they intend to apply to the City of Toronto for site plan approval and building permits. Construction start is scheduled for July 2007.

great :)

[Canadian Chocho]

I'll clebrate when construction actually starts.

[HLH]

purchaser

[Waterloo_Guy]

HLH, thanks for the news and welcome to the forum.

[caltrane74]

HLH is the Pointer Sisters..

"Neutron Dance" and "Im So Excited" Taller. -

Barry Manilow. comon guy.

[caltrane74]

Double Post

[phunky]

July as a start date? I think it will start before then personally.

[skouby]

purchaser

If you dont mind my asking, did you purchase a Residence or a Hotel Suite? How many bedrooms? Square feet??

[Canadian Chocho]

And what movies have you been in lately?

[CrazyCanuck]

I'm sorry to tell you guys, but I heard the Dec 16th announcement has no merit to it.

[Jaye101]

huh? What do you mean?

[CrazyCanuck]

I mean there is good chance there will be no announcement on the 16th.

[Taller, Better]

oh oh... I smell tar and feathers over at maldive's house if there isn't an
announcement! LOL!

[Jaye101]

^^LOL

[dougbennion]

Hi all. Crazy ... what was your source, and how reliable was it? Were there any hints it was merely going to be postponed, or was the announcement totally bogus to begin with? Or is this just another rumour about a rumour?

[CrazyCanuck]

It was a pretty good source.

[elliot]

Trump International Hotel & Tower, Toronto has now finalized contruction financing. On January 5, 2007 they intend to apply to the City of Toronto for site plan approval and building permits. Construction start is scheduled for July 2007. - HLH

The buyers already know the news and so do you. It they changed their minds (again) and delay breaking construction until the summer, so what? They got their money so they can build it. That's the hard part. Right?

[trumptoronto]

Hi all. Crazy ... what was your source, and how reliable was it? Were there any hints it was merely going to be postponed, or was the announcement totally bogus to begin with? Or is this just another rumour about a rumour?

Hey... just to clarify... YES there will be an announcement. But the Dec 16th date is a rumour started on the boards. It did not come from our office.

[Jaye101]

Let's try this for... What? the second time?

[yyzer]

Well, Here We Go....!

Groundbreaking for Trump tower set for spring
SYDNIA YU

From Friday's Globe and Mail

With about 70 per cent of the suites in the Trump International Hotel and Tower already sold, groundbreaking at the site in Toronto's financial district is scheduled for spring, with construction expected to start in the summer. "There's no turning back," says Barry Landsberg, Toronto director of marketing for Trump International, a joint venture between property tycoon Donald Trump and Talon International Development Inc.

It is expected that the luxury hotel/condominium — Mr. Trump's first development in Canada — will be completed in 2010.

When completed, the 70-storey tower at 325 Bay St. will be the tallest residential building in Canada. It will contain a five-star hotel with 291 suites and, above them, 147 luxury condominium units.

Plans for the residential suites range from one to three levels and measure 1,299 to 7,375 square feet; the average price is between $2-million and $3-million.

For frequent travellers, hotel suites can also be purchased, starting at $784,000 for a 574-square-foot studio. These rooms will be fully furnished and eligible for inclusion in the hotel's rental program when vacant. "You own that suite outright, so you earn all the revenue from that suite," Mr. Landsberg explains, minus administration and operating fees. "If it's rented out for $650, you may earn $500 of that."

As for amenities, the set-up will be similar to that of the Trump International Hotel and Tower in New York, which is Mr. Trump's flagship development.

"[The Trump Organization] has that experience in managing that Manhattan lifestyle living, and that's what they'll bring to the development [in Toronto]," Mr. Landsberg says, adding: "[Purchasers] like the availability of all the services and amenities of the hotel."

For example, facilities in Toronto will be oriented toward business people. There will be a high-tech business centre with meeting rooms, as well as restaurants, a bar and an 18,000-square-foot health club and spa, complete with a gym and pool.

Residents also will have access to hotel services such as housekeeping and valet parking, as well as exclusive use of two chauffeured, S-class Mercedes.

The site is close to many urban attractions, such up-scale restaurants, theatres and major concert and sports venues. "It's all within walking distance, and much of [the walking is] underground ... through the PATH system," Mr. Landsberg says.

"There's a level of discretion and intimacy in the building," he continues, pointing out that there will be two to six residential units on each floor, separate service entrances for some suites, and private elevator access from the Sky Lobby on the 33rd floor.

"Whether you're in a 6,000-square-foot suite or 1,300-square foot suite, we've maintained the 10-foot-plus ceiling heights and the same quality of fixtures and finishes," he adds.

They include hardwood and natural stone materials, and coffered ceilings in some areas. There will be stainless-steel appliances and electric fireplaces.

Most plans include formal living and dining rooms, and eat-in kitchens with floor-to-ceiling windows overlooking the city and lake. Some models have terraces, libraries or gallery-style foyers, and penthouse units have great rooms.

Special to The Globe and Mail

[Marcanadian]

Finally, a reliable source! I knew the project wasn't dead, just incredibly slow.

[Taller, Better]

Well, a Dec 16 announcement is now a moot point. The announcement has been made, officially, via the Globe. Now all we have to do is keep the champagne on ice til ground turning! 70 stories of sheer bliss. I can't wait to see this baby rise...
I can think of one person today who is going to be very cranky when he reads this announcement. ;)

[Filip]

Oh.. thank God.

[taal]

Amazing News!

Anyone have any idea what type of material will be used on the exterior of the tower .. at the base especially? Also, will their be some form of lighting at the top?

Trumptoronto care to enlighten us .. unless this has already been answered before :-)

[ratoronto]

amazing news!

[Canadian Chocho]

WOOOHOOO!!

:scouserd: http://usera.imagecave.com/hippies/DaveChapelleRickJames.jpg :scouserd:

[Taller, Better]

LOL!! Chocho, you made me laugh so hard I spilled my coffee!

[Canadian Chocho]

LOL, I hope you have stain resistant pants.

[Jaye101]

YES!

[Taller, Better]

LOL, I hope you have stain resistant pants.

No Depends jokes from me!! ;)

[ToRoNto, g-town]

this is amazing news.. cant wait till the threads showing trumps construction!

[caltrane74]

That Rick James Picture is my new avatar.

After all this on again off again shit, it is time to get seriously fucked up.


Taller: you wear Depends?

[Taller, Better]

That Rick James Picture is my new avatar.

After all this on again off again shit, it is time to get seriously fucked up.


Taller: you wear Depends?

No... but I hear they are really good for some problem areas!;)
Man that is going to be one celebration when the ground breaks.
I HEART Trump Tower! :D

[Tuscani01]

wooohooo

cant wait to see this baby rise!

[neilio]

woot!!

I think this ocasion deserves a new avatar!
I laugh in the face of all who doubted my "blind optimism" cause i new this tower would be built the whole time muhahahahahaa.

This has got to be one of the greatest days for the Toronto section of SSC :P

[Waterloo_Guy]

Where's Billy? Anyway, I feel vindicated. I never had a doubt. This calls for a banana :banana2:

[neilio]

Where's Billy? Anyway, I feel vindicated. I never had a doubt. This calls for a banana :banana2:

right on!:banana:

[Canadian Chocho]

this is amazing news.. cant wait till the threads showing trumps construction!

Freakin' amazing avatar!

[CrazyCanuck]

What was that Billy? That's what I thought.

http://www.my-mistake.net/infinitepics/billy/billy435.jpg

[phunky]

hey the real billy corgan is awesome!

[Waterloo_Guy]

Canuck, I almost spit out my coffee.

[Taller, Better]

hey the real billy corgan is awesome!


The fake one ain't nuttin' special. His crystal ball is faulty.

[Jackhammer]

Let's try this for... What? the second time?

I wish you had saved billy's post so we could have copied it onto UT.

[billy corgan]

No date has been set? Just some arbitrary announcement that we have heard before and we will probably here again. I still believe that this project is not financially viable and I wouldn’t get excited until the shovels hit the ground. I would love to see this building go up and although the design isn’t spectacular, it would be a nice addition to our city skyline. Now you guys can go back to your immature rants about me.

I wish you had saved billy's post so we could have copied it onto UT.

Why? They already know my position and most share it. But feel free to post anything that a write on UT, if that turns your crank.

[Taller, Better]

Not interested, Billy. Thanks just the same.

[billy corgan]

Not interested, Billy.

Huh? :weird:

[Taller, Better]

"But feel free to post anything that a write on UT, if that turns your crank"

We'll get right on that, Billy. Nostradamus has been failing us lately for prophesies.... :cheers:

[neilio]

No date has been set? Just some arbitrary announcement that we have heard before and we will probably here again. I still believe that this project is not financially viable and I wouldn’t get excited until the shovels hit the ground. I would love to see this building go up and although the design isn’t spectacular, it would be a nice addition to our city skyline. Now you guys can go back to your immature rants about me.



Why? They already know my position and most share it. But feel free to post anything that a write on UT, if that turns your crank.

Im getting the feeling you just dont want this tower to go up billy..

And NO we havnt heard this before, NEVER has a ground breaking been announced, and according to the company financing IS secured....honestly dude, your not taking everything into account here. This tower will go up, how you can still try to defend your position when it is totaly beyond reason and logic...:bash:

[phunky]

how many trump towers have been announced that were not built? i can't think of any.

[Filip]

how many trump towers have been announced that were not built? i can't think of any.

Well.. There WAS Trump's Television City in NYC...

[Waterloo_Guy]

Well, Trump towers appear to have little to do with Trump. The only stat that I care about is the Toronto market, which is insane. God, I could probably build a highrise here. The only thing of concern is that I don't think Trump has as much cache here as it does in the States; some Torontonians might associate Trump more with tacky TV than quality and opt for real class at the Four Seasons. But really, I think this tower is a done deal. I have no doubts

[InTheBeach]

Torontonians might associate Trump more with tacky TV than quality

That and a bad hairdo...BINGO!

[phunky]

That and a bad hairdo...BINGO!

careful what you say about people's haircuts. some ppl here will think you're shallow.

[Taller, Better]

Beach? Shallow??!?! Who would dare to think that?!?! :nono:

[Filip]

I have a question for Trumptoronto (hopefully you read this)

Since Trump is to spend a minimum of 5 million on public art.. What's being planned for the site?

[Jackhammer]

No date has been set? Just some arbitrary announcement that we have heard before and we will probably here again. I still believe that this project is not financially viable and I wouldn’t get excited until the shovels hit the ground. I would love to see this building go up and although the design isn’t spectacular, it would be a nice addition to our city skyline. Now you guys can go back to your immature rants about me.



Why? They already know my position and most share it. But feel free to post anything that a write on UT, if that turns your crank.
Hmmm ...... and do you show the same discourtesy to the members on UT who do not share your position?

[mikep]

Excellent news, I was starting to think it was a thing of the past.
http://mariah.stonemarche.org/favlinks/pigs_fly.jpg
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[KGB]

Since Trump is to spend a minimum of 5 million on public art.. What's being planned for the site?


I don't think its public art contribution would be that much, as I doubt the construction cost of the tower is quite 1/2 $billion.

Given the the nature of the way the building takes up the entire site, I doubt the public art amount will be utilized on site, as it has to be seen by the public. I have no idea, but I would imagine most or all of it will be used for public art at another location....perhaps around Dundas Square, where this developer was contributing Section 37 funds.





KGB

[InTheBeach]

careful what you say about people's haircuts. some ppl here will think you're shallow.

Ha Ha, I was expecting a backlash for saying BINGO!

Be proud of your receding hairline. It's OK.

[InTheBeach]

Beach? Shallow??!?! Who would dare to think that?!?! :nono:

:lol:

Being called shallow from people who get turned on by skyscrapers???

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[zerokarma]

Here is a link to the actual article if anyone is interested:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061207.resite-trump08/BNStory/RealEstate/

Looking on Google News I don't see anyone else reporting it yet.

[p5archit]

I read that article last week I believe- not to much news, except that the expected construction dates are in mid-2007. How long has this project been on the market now? 3, 4, 5 years? I would imagine that the design is already dated and would require updating..doubtful however, that this will happen.

p5

[ILoveSkyscrapers]

Email I received today.

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[Waterloo_Guy]

They have the financing and have sold most of the building--it's a go. I don't think Trump is on the same level as Four Seasons or Ritz, but even Tridel wouldn't promise a start date if it wasn't their intention to build.

[Taller, Better]

Exactly. No commie plot here folks.. it is going up. This deserves a
dancing vegetable, I think! :carrot:

[Tuscani01]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3agGuvjnmY

^ The guy talks to someone at Trump during this tour... its pretty funny.

[phunky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3agGuvjnmY

^ The guy talks to someone at Trump during this tour... its pretty funny.

The sales rep says "he's (Donald Trump) coming here this fall for the groundbreaking".
That video was filmed in summer 2006. Fall 2006 is almost over. No groundbreaking yet ;)

It would be so interesting to know why this building has been delayed so much. To really know what's been going on. I bet she could tell you lots of interesting things if she were able to.

[Tuscani01]

The sales rep says "he's (Donald Trump) coming here this fall for the groundbreaking".
That video was filmed in summer 2006. Fall 2006 is almost over. No groundbreaking yet ;)

It would be so interesting to know why this building has been delayed so much. To really know what's been going on. I bet she could tell you lots of interesting things if she were able to.

hmmm maybe if we can get her drunk...

[trumptoronto]

Sales for Trump Toronto began late-summer 2004. The simple reason that the building has taken longer to sell than others is the price-range. Suites at the $1M + range don't fly off the shelves like $200,000 condos. There is simply a smaller market of potential buyers at this price range. But yet, that being said, we've sold over $250-million worth of real estate in a little over 2 years. In any other project, that would be considered a wild success! As I've said all along, to my friends "the doubters," we'll see you at ground-breaking!

I read that article last week I believe- not to much news, except that the expected construction dates are in mid-2007. How long has this project been on the market now? 3, 4, 5 years? I would imagine that the design is already dated and would require updating..doubtful however, that this will happen.

p5

[G_DOG]

trumptoronto we know when sales started and noticed your join date as nov 2004.from a business perspective its obvious this building is a tough sell as
people willing to pay 2 mill for a condo dont grow on trees.but i think you guys have done well and beleive once construction starts and this tower rises
attitudes will change.till then chill.
btw what is your role in this project?

[duff+eglin]

He sounded pretty chilled to me.

Congrats trumptoronto. Thanks for keeping us updated this whole time.

trumptoronto we know when sales started and noticed your join date as nov 2004.from a business perspective its obvious this building is a tough sell as
people willing to pay 2 mill for a condo dont grow on trees.but i think you guys have done well and beleive once construction starts and this tower rises
attitudes will change.till then chill.
btw what is your role in this project?