Milan Residences | Proposed | 39 st | ??? m | Downtown

[The 'Sauga]

http://milanresidences.ca/

http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/3825/milanrwn1.jpg

[thryve]

Where's that going?

[Waterloo_Guy]

Oh, God. Not another one of those.

[phunky]

as much as i love the design of this style, i'm startin to get tired of them now. all the new buildings are starting to look the same. 50 years from now you'll look back and say "ugh those ugly buildings built in the 2000-2010 decade". just like how we look at those concrete slabs built in the 60's and 70's now.

[Filip]

Yorkville.

[Taller, Better]

I hate real estate websites with all that silly flash loading. Can never be bothered to watch it all. Where in Yorkville? It doesn't look terribly distinguished, and the name is silly beyond belief.

[Filip]

Canadian Tire site. And yes, the whole European thing is so passe. Name it at least after something Canadian.

But I do get where they're coming from, it's like women who are impressed by cheap jewellery, Milan sounds better than Flin Flon.

[Fedekovic]

But I do get where they're coming from, it's like women who are impressed by cheap jewellery, Milan sounds better than Flin Flon.

I don't know... Flin Flon sounds pretty awesome...:lol:

I like the general design of the building but it will definitely end up the same was as all the concrete slabs around the city. It may please the populace at one point but give it a decade or two to age and people suddenly won't like it anymore because it's out of style.

[valantino]

^ what's your point?

everything has a date and time when it is out of style. However, a simple glass box will most definitely be more timeless in design than some one-of-a-kind, postmodern interpretation

not bad and light years better than their NYCC counterpart

[camel_trainer]

Filip, it's funny, because of all the Canadian small town references you could have chosen to illustrate your point, you picked one that honestly isn't as bad as some of the names that currently exist. That's not so much a criticism of your choice; more a criticism of the terrible names we've seen. I can almost see Flin Flon as a name for a condo project. Almost.

How about Moose Factory?

[bigcityboy]

Great to see this Canadian Tire site finally getting the go-ahead for development. I remember there was a local artist fighting like mad against anything tall there because it blocked light coming into his home studio. Anybody living that close to Yonge that far downtown who complains about shadows drives me a bit nuts.

[thryve]

It may please the populace at one point but give it a decade or two to age and people suddenly won't like it anymore because it's out of style.


That's just life... not every building can be timeless. I actually have learned to appreciate many more eras than just the really old ones and the new stuff we're getting. I even see the architectural beauty of those ugly '50s, '60s, '70s apartment blocks, because they were new once.

Look at Holland.... every project they build is SO in the moment, their cities are love-or-hate. But atleast that way there's always something fresh, plus alot of older, interesting stuff.

You just have to learn to appreciate the out-of-date buildings, too.

[Marcanadian]

Good to see the land filled but I expected more from the design. I'm getting tired of these look-a-like condominiums, which is why I like Monage and Luna Vista.

[Jaborandi]

as much as i love the design of this style, i'm startin to get tired of them now. all the new buildings are starting to look the same. 50 years from now you'll look back and say "ugh those ugly buildings built in the 2000-2010 decade". just like how we look at those concrete slabs built in the 60's and 70's now.

What a curious thing to say. I was around when those concrete slabs of the 60's and 70's went up and I can't recall any response from the public other than how ugly they were. Despite the psychedelia the bleakness of these buildings was very apparent and no one was saying groovy or far fuckin out when another slab was thrown up. There was no dancing in the street, no confetti and no champagne, just the depressing knowledge that we would probably have to look at them for the rest of our lives.

The Milan on the other hand is a welcome addition. It and the others of it's ilk really only need a spot of Windex to keep them looking new.

[Fedekovic]

That's just life... not every building can be timeless. I actually have learned to appreciate many more eras than just the really old ones and the new stuff we're getting. I even see the architectural beauty of those ugly '50s, '60s, '70s apartment blocks, because they were new once.

I realize that few buildings will remain timeless but here is my worry, won't we have a city full of eyesores one day when they all get old and out of style? These buildings are built to last for a long time but is it possible that all of these buildings end up turning Toronto into a giant slum? I mean, look at St. James Town. It was once the place to be. When those buildings went up it was a pretty nice part of town but that area became nasty pretty quickly. I hate to come across as a cynic but if we have all these similar buildings, they will all go out of style simultaneously and their property values will plummet at the same time. I'm not saying this will happen for sure, but isn't it a possibility?

Sorry for going off topic, for the most part the building looks nice. It isn't completely original but it has a good clean look. Heh, Milan is my fathers name too. Now he has a car and condo with the same name as him.

[Filip]

^^I assume you're from Yugoslavia?

[Fedekovic]

Born in Toronto, both my parents from Serbia.

[Filip]

Born in Toronto, both my parents from Serbia.

Nice, I was born in Belgrade, Serbian mother/German father (though I'm more Serbian than anything else):D

Anyway, regarding this tower and similar ones, I don't think they'll fall out of style, I'm trying to imagine simply WHAT would be more futuristic than glass point towers!

[Fedekovic]

I'm trying to imagine simply WHAT would be more futuristic than glass point towers!

Buildings with no windows and glass roofs/floors. I guess that might be a privacy issue though. :lol:

[monkeyronin]

I realize that few buildings will remain timeless but here is my worry, won't we have a city full of eyesores one day when they all get old and out of style? These buildings are built to last for a long time but is it possible that all of these buildings end up turning Toronto into a giant slum? I mean, look at St. James Town. It was once the place to be. When those buildings went up it was a pretty nice part of town but that area became nasty pretty quickly. I hate to come across as a cynic but if we have all these similar buildings, they will all go out of style simultaneously and their property values will plummet at the same time. I'm not saying this will happen for sure, but isn't it a possibility?

Uhh, how Jamestown relates to this condo I do not know. what went wrong with it was bad planning, not buildings which magically turned it into a ghetto. And by your logic, we should just never build anythig ever again for fear that it may one day be ugly.

[Jaborandi]

[QUOTE=Fedekovic;10987005]I realize that few buildings will remain timeless but here is my worry, won't we have a city full of eyesores one day when they all get old and out of style? These buildings are built to last for a long time but is it possible that all of these buildings end up turning Toronto into a giant slum? I mean, look at St. James Town. It was once the place to be. When those buildings went up it was a pretty nice part of town but that area became nasty pretty quickly. I hate to come across as a cynic but if we have all these similar buildings, they will all go out of style simultaneously and their property values will plummet at the same time. I'm not saying this will happen for sure, but isn't it a possibility?


St. James Town was the place to be for about five minutes and it was not a nice part of town. It was part of Cabbagetown and in those days Cabbagetown was a very daggy neighbourhood indeed. It was because it was so run down and cheap (but with an intimate charm) that it became so popular. I think any fears that the intersection of Yonge & Davenport will become another St. James Town are a tad over blown - don't you? Or do you?

[Fedekovic]

I was just pitching an idea, no need to release the hounds. I was also referring to the state of all condos in Toronto looking similar and being built at the same time, not this building specifically. I just think there should be a bit more individuality in condominiums opposed to every one following the same basic principle of what is popular and maybe try and be a bit more innovative instead of going for the guaranteed sell that is provided by these buildings.

"And by your logic, we should just never build anythig ever again for fear that it may one day be ugly."

No, no, that isn't my logic. I was just saying that when you build many buildings that look practically the same, they will go out of style together. When they all become considered "ugly", the people living there will most likely not want to any more. They will want to move out and have to sell it cheaper to get this "ugly" property off their hands and that means people of lower income will buy them and it will continue to spiral downwards until they will have to practically give them away.

I'm simply saying that if that if in Toronto we are experiencing a huge condo boom and if they all go out of style at the same time we'll see a slum effect. I'm not suggesting there will be an apocalypse and Toronto will melt down but I worry a little about having the value of property drop rapidly in a decade or two.

[monkeyronin]

No, no, that isn't my logic. I was just saying that when you build many buildings that look practically the same, they will go out of style together. When they all become considered "ugly", the people living there will most likely not want to any more. They will want to move out and have to sell it cheaper to get this "ugly" property off their hands and that means people of lower income will buy them and it will continue to spiral downwards until they will have to practically give them away.

What about all the 60s/70s slabs downtown that AREN'T in Jamestown? well, they can all cost a bit, despite being "ugly". Prices for condos dowtown will only go up as demand increases, whether the building is ugly or not. I think most people are more concerned with location and quality of the building than the architecture.

[sl64]

I was born in Belgrade too.

It's a shame that people keep playing the St. Jamestown card, when the analogy is tenuous at best. You simply can't compare having a high concentration of low-income people to dense condo areas where everyone has to be at least somewhat well off. What makes a place "ghetto" like St. Jamestown is near-universal poverty coupled with extremely high densities -- the same recipe you get in the sketchy areas of most big cities. How does that apply to an area like Yonge and Davenport?

[Taller, Better]

A normal way to view a "mature" city (NYC, Paris, London) is to accept that the city will have architecture from every period of its history. Unless you live in a city like Dubai, where there is very little "past", all the buildings are not going to be new. Also, every "mature" city in the western world has buildings that are rectangular in shape, and they may have been built in the 60's and 70's and 80's. Panicking about that fact seems sort of silly, don't you think?
Expensive condos are not likely to slide into assisted housing apartment units.

[thryve]

^^ Everything in Dubai may be new at the moment, but when that boom slows, and if it stops- BAM that will be one giant 2000's architecture museum. Hah.

[davidmillerismyboss]

Milan is hot! Love the city, love the condo, hate the car.

We may complain "oh it's just another glass box." Well at least it's not another early-90's toronto glass 'n precast box (like the one behind the reference library.) And it's still gonna be in the top 25 best looking highrise condos built in the first decade of 21st century toronto. However, I wonder: are toronto developers, Aa & co architects ready to evolve from the glass box? I'd like to see some red brick buildings resolved in an elegant yet avantgarde fashion. Maybe use the New College new residence as a base, toss in some more saucier+perotte touches, some intriguing curves/layers and some northern european soul?

For now, milan is okay with me--especially considering what the developers would have thought appropriate for the conservative rosedale crowd a mere five years ago.

[wiki]

waoooooooooo, really impresive, elegant, imponent, amazing tower, toronto its really in the way

[Taller, Better]

For now, milan is okay with me--especially considering what the developers would have thought appropriate for the conservative rosedale crowd a mere five years ago.


You have a point there.

[ONEILLT]

Check it out, finally a design for the complex at Davenport and Yonge. Looks great

http:\\milanresidences.ca

[LordMandeep]

thing will sell like hotcakes...nice area and with a good price, it will do well.

[Taller, Better]

Davenport and Yonge? Which corner? That 'hood is going up up up. Hate the pretentious name but it is a decent building.

[thryve]

It's a Conservatory Group development? That's strange. Not that there's something wrong with their other ones... just it seems too 'sexy' to be a Conservatory Group development.

[phunky]

Wow very nice. It's Toronto style with a lil bit of a difference to it. Love it!

[valantino]

Davenport and Yonge? Which corner? That 'hood is going up up up. Hate the pretentious name but it is a decent building

actually Church and Yonge as its the parking lot beside the CT gas station

[current]

From the latest Condo Guide magazine.

http://www.newhomesandcondos.com/content/4/20071210/A1_9452.jpg

Conservatory Group’s Milan Condominium: A Rosedale address, a Yorkville lifestyle

The Conservatory Group’s new Milan condo delivers that unbeatable combination certain to appeal to anyone who wants to enjoy the best of downtown living: a Rosedale address combined with a Yorkville lifestyle.

Situated steps north of Yonge and Bloor, just east of where Yonge meets Davenport, Milan’s graceful 37-storey glass tower overlooks some of North America’s most beautiful urban greenery – the Rosedale valley. Yet, at the same time, Yorkville – with its incomparable shops, bistros and diversions – is just minutes walk to the west.

The same short stroll south takes residents to Yonge and Bloor, the heart of Toronto. The subway is almost at Milan’s doorstep. Just to the west are acres of natural woods, ravines and magnificent parkland, stretching right to the banks of the Don River.

“Milan represents one of our most unique projects yet,” says Jay Libfeld, Director of Condominium Development for the Conservatory Group. “The location is unbeatable. It places residents minutes walk from some of the greatest shopping and entertainment areas in the city, and yet it also offers tremendous vistas of natural woodlands and the superb scenery of the Rosedale Valley.

Designed by a collaboration between celebrated architectural firms E.I. Richmond and Burka Varacalli, the name “Milan” was chosen because it captures the flavour of the northern Italian city famous around the globe as a centre of great design and cutting-edge innovation. Interior design comes from Trevor Kruse, Partner in Hudson Kruse Design. Kruse is winner of the 2007 Leader’s Award from the International Interior Design Association.

Milan stands for life “con brio,” a celebration of living well, which is indeed what Milan offers.

The striking glass tower rises from an eight-level podium and is grounded by a series of elegant townhomes. The tower offers 322 exceptionally spacious suites. All have balconies, which extend indoor living and entertainment space into the outdoors. All have large kitchens, perfect for dinner parties or stay-at-home meals.

“We offer kitchens and living spaces that are made for people who love to entertain,” says Libfeld. “The suites are designed for those who enjoy time spent creating meals for themselves and entertaining family and friends.

Milan brings the love of home entertaining to its residents.”

The structural details start with that eight-storey podium. It will be home to a broad range of lifestyle amenities including an indoor swimming pool, fitness centre, ninth-floor open air Mediterranean-inspired lounge with cabanas, fire pit and reflective/wading pools and a lengthy list of other facilities that indulge life’s desires, says Libfeld.

There will be an executive concierge to meet and greet guests and residents, plus a round-the-clock security guard to monitor all common areas including the parking garage.

Residents will be able to indulge and relax in the sculptured, landscaped grounds and the secluded observation retreat at ground level overlooking the thick, inviting woodlands of the Rosedale Valley.

The suites themselves cover the entire range of choice in size and design, starting with 577-sq.-ft., one-bedroom suites right up to very large 1,896-sq.-ft. penthouses. The detailing and quality of finishes is superb.

Prices start in the $300,000 range and run up to more than $1 million for Milan’s impressive luxury penthouses.

To experience what life can be like when you have one foot in Rosedale and the other in Yorkville, register at www.milanresidences.ca or call 416-928-7409.

http://www.newhomesandcondos.com/modules/magazine/article.asp?AID=6033&MID=4&IDATE=12/10/2007&CMID=4&CIDATE=12/10/2007

[bigcityboy]

only 37 st now. although i guess that could change depending on sales.

[ale26]

Nice!

Those prices look a little low to me though? Only 1 million for the penthouse in Rosedale / Yorkville :|...cummon.

[Waterloo_Guy]

Looks like cheap shit.

[ONE HUMAN]

It does? And you're basing that on one tiny rendering? It's so easy to be negative, isn't it.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/217/milanpp7.jpg

[Waterloo_Guy]

It's so easy to be negative, isn't it.



What a stupid thing to say. My comment wasn't motivated by the relative ease of negative comments, but by my observation of the rendering. The big one looks like shit too.

This is a nice part of town, it deserves better than more green glass. I'm not sure I'd want this in the Southlands, much less here.

[Jaborandi]

What a stupid thing to say. My comment wasn't motivated by the relative ease of negative comments, but by my observation of the rendering. The big one looks like shit too.

This is a nice part of town, it deserves better than more green glass. I'm not sure I'd want this in the Southlands, much less here.

What green glass - where?

[ggaleazz]

I think the amazement everyone in this forum should have right now is that One Human is actually defending a Toronto development.

[NorthYorker]

Looks greenish to me, not that it's necessarily a bad thing, if its done very well. The design doesn't offend me too much, but I agree that the project and prices don't match the great location.

[vancouverite/to'er]

What is this Infinity the second? Yorkville undoubtedly deserves better than this garbage.

[vancouverite/to'er]

What is this Infinity Phase VI? Yorkville undoubtedly deserves better than this garbage.

[ONE HUMAN]

What a stupid thing to say. My comment wasn't motivated by the relative ease of negative comments, but by my observation of the rendering. The big one looks like shit too.

This is a nice part of town, it deserves better than more green glass. I'm not sure I'd want this in the Southlands, much less here.

You're right, what you said was kinda stupid. I didn't want to be that harsh though.

[ONE HUMAN]

I think the amazement everyone in this forum should have right now is that One Human is actually defending a Toronto development.

Why would you say that? I think you must have me confused with someone else. Where have you seen me criticizing Toronto projects? You're more likely to see me defending them. The vast majority of posters here are way more negative and critical of Toronto architecture than I am. I don't have to list names, but you know who they are.

Perhaps you would like to quote some posts of mine where I'm bashing Toronto development in order to support your weak assertion. The only examples I can think of offhand are 1.) my disappointment with the mismatched panels of the ROM Crystal, and 2.) the placement of the smaller video screens around the big screen at Toronto Life Square. However, I like both of those projects on the whole, and I'm definitely far from the only one making those same criticisms. If you have other examples, feel free to share.

[ONE HUMAN]

Perhaps those of you that "hate" this building so much based on one simple rendering would care to explain what exactly is so bad about it, other than this supposed horrid green glass. Will you be making the "just another box" argument as well? Or are the balconies offending you?

It's so easy to be negative of projects when all you've seen is one rendering. Oh, I also love when a project under construction is deeply criticized. Why not wait 'til it's completed before you judge it? Now there's a novel idea!

[NorthYorker]

I'm not trying to knock you onehuman, but;Why not wait 'til it's completed before you judge it? Now there's a novel idea!?

This forum is mostly about discussing proposed, and U/C developments, its what we're all interested in. Besides, if no one judged projects until they were completed, we'd have one ass ugly city on our hands. When did caring about the design of our city become a sin?

Otherwise I agree with what you said.

[Waterloo_Guy]

Why not wait 'til it's completed before you judge it?

Because I can judge the proposal now. Toronto has already suffered enough from half-assed developments. When did being critical become a bad thing?

[valantino]

It's only a good thing when something like Milano comes across as half ass as it could be a lot worse ....

http://www.schembripm.com/newsletter_files/Image/building4.JPG
soon to be gracing the Waterloo skyline

[Jaborandi]

I'm not trying to knock you onehuman, but;?

This forum is mostly about discussing proposed, and U/C developments, its what we're all interested in. Besides, if no one judged projects until they were completed, we'd have one ass ugly city on our hands. When did caring about the design of our city become a sin?

Otherwise I agree with what you said.

Do you seriously think that anthing said on this forum in any way influences the design process for any development? This forum only provides a vehicle for right handed exercise (unless of course you are left handed).

[yin_yang]

It's only a good thing when something like Milano comes across as half ass as it could be a lot worse ....

http://www.schembripm.com/newsletter_files/Image/building4.JPG
soon to be gracing the Waterloo skyline

would you look at that, we got one of those too!

[thryve]

Way to mock Waterloo Guy, valantino, by using au unfortunate building from Waterloo that nobody there likes either.
Very creative... :bash:

That's really lame of you... considering Waterloo Guy has every right to hate the Milan condo.

[thryve]

It does? And you're basing that on one tiny rendering? It's so easy to be negative, isn't it.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/217/milanpp7.jpg

Ooh!!! Bigger rendering :cheers: I actually like this one alot, as simple as it is. It's not trying to look all done up shnazzy, so I think we'll get someting better than the render suggests.

[Waterloo_Guy]

I think Valantino is under the mistaken impression that I am the developer of that building, and that it is therefore hypocritical of me to mock another developer's poor choices. Either that or he's just a big twat who lacks both intelligence and manners. One or the other, I'm sure.

[valantino]

Either that or he's just a big twat who lacks both intelligence and manners.

just trying to fit in with the rest of you guys

[valantino]

That's really lame of you

this discussion is not deserving of any better

[Taller, Better]

Do you seriously think that anthing said on this forum in any way influences the design process for any development? This forum only provides a vehicle for right handed exercise (unless of course you are left handed).

LOL! Jab, truer words were never spoken.:cheers::applause: