The Plural of Autobahn is Autobahnen, not Autobahns!

[Alargule]

Just so you know.

[newyorkrunaway1]

lol

[Maxx☢Power]

Uhm, who cares?
:runaway:

Ich habe vier Autobahns gegessen.

[Alargule]

^^ I do, of course. Otherwise, I wouldn't have opened a special thread for it, silly...;)

[pflo777]

Autobahn is americanized....

You also say Kindergardens and not Kindergaerten in America.

Btw, I think, the Interstates in the US should be renamed in Autobahns

[cristobal_underscore]

What is the deathrate on the Autobahn? like 30 a day?

[Alargule]

What makes you think so?

[premier]

What is the deathrate on the Autobahn? like 30 a day?

They are the safest roads you can travell on :|

[YelloPerilo]

What is the deathrate on the Autobahn? like 30 a day?

No, because we are the best drivers in the world who respect the traffic rules and we are well trained. :) :cheers:

[Alargule]

As long as you move to the right when I come speeding at you at the left lane at 200 kph...NL: Nur Links! :cheers:

Despite the lack of a speed limit, the German Autobahns are the safest to travel on. Several reasons:

- autobahns are designed with high top speeds in mind: curve radii and gradients are small, allowing high top speeds;
- the parts without speed limits are usually three lanes wide, preventing sudden crashes due to overtaking trucks;
- and yes: most Germans can handle high speeds quite well;
- there are no at-grade crossings with other traffic (the most important criterion for an 'Autobahn' to be called as such) - which means you only have to watch the traffic in front of you and behind you. Most deadly crashes occur on roads off the highways, with grade crossings, oncoming traffic, trees alongside the road...;
- cars have become safer and safer over the years. The Germans are especially fond of large, safe cars, that will get you through heavy crashes alive.

[Verso]

Despite the lack of a speed limit, the German Autobahns are the safest to travel on. Several reasons:

- autobahns are designed with high top speeds in mind: curve radii and gradients are small, allowing high top speeds

That's not some German particularity; no country is so stupid to build sharp curves, if not necessary; Germany is mostly flat, you can't compare it to let's say Switzerland. Besides, the A8 Autobahn between Salzburg (the border) and Rosenheim has so annoyingly sharp curves; that stretch is pretty shitty.

[Alargule]

^^ Stating that Autobahns (hey, I'm doing it myself as well...:nuts:) are designed for high speeds, does not necessarily exclude the possibility that similar roads in other countries were designed according to the same criteria.

[Verso]

^ You stated that soft curves on the German Autobahns are one of the reason why they are THE safest to travel on (so you excluded other countries); so it can't be one of the reasons why they are the safest; I'd say because of their quality (good asphalt is characteristic for Germany) and perhaps the drivers (although there are many foreigners on German Autobahns as well).

[Minato ku]

This thread are right
the real work should be Motorways because the internation language is the english

Only Germany Switzerland and Austria use the term Autobahn

Why not autoroute
France Belgium Switzerland Canada
or Autopista
Spain Mexico Argentina Chili etc...

For the quality
France and some other european coutries is as the same level as Germany.

[Nicolás]

For the quality
France and some other european coutries is as the same level as Germany.

and some even better :yes:

[ChrisZwolle]

The word "Autobahn" is much more famous in the world than Autoroute or Autopista, but they are doing good too.

When someone says"germany", you almost automatically think about the Autobahn.

[Verso]

Actually I'd prefer the word Autobahn (or autobahn, with small 'a') over several expressions in English, such as motorway, freeway, expressway, not to mention very frequent misuse of the word highway. Autobahn explains it all.:cheers:

[Alargule]

^ You stated that soft curves on the German Autobahns are one of the reason why they are THE safest to travel on (so you excluded other countries); so it can't be one of the reasons why they are the safest; I'd say because of their quality (good asphalt is characteristic for Germany) and perhaps the drivers (although there are many foreigners on German Autobahns as well).

'The' safest was of course more of a rhetorical use of the word 'the'. I don't know the statistics (neither do you, I presume), so I can't really say that German Autobahnen are the safest to travel on.

But let's stop being annoying nitpickers, shall we?

[Verso]

^^ Sure.:cheers:

[ZZ-II]

what a silly thread :sleepy:

[Deadeye Reloaded]

This thread are right
the real work should be Motorways because the internation language is the english

Only Germany Switzerland and Austria use the term Autobahn

"Autobahn" stands for a high quality toll-free highway with no speed limit. It is a worldwide known word like Oktoberfest.


Wikipedia:

Accident Record
The overall safety record of autobahns is comparable to other European motorways, and motorways are safer than other road types. A 2005 study by the Federal Minister of the Interior indicated that there were an equal number of accidents per kilometer on the autobahn in sections without any speed limits.

[Maxx☢Power]

Come on. Autobahn is motorway in German und Autobahn heisst motorway in English. Some motorways in Germany may not have speed limits, but they're still only motorways.. Oktoberfest is the name of one particular event, not every "fest" in the world.

[earthJoker]

"Autobahn" stands for a high quality toll-free highway with no speed limit. It is a worldwide known word like Oktoberfest.

Erm, not only Germany has Autobahnen, we have them too.

[DiggerD21]

The first road resembling an Autobahn was built 1921 in Berlin (the AVUS). However the first real Autobahn was built 1924 in Italy (Milan-Como). Italians call it Autostrada.

[Ka-8]

Erm, not only Germany has Autobahnen, we have them too.

Also in colloquial spoken Polish language exists word like "Autobana" (written as it is spoken) for Autobahn. It's an obvious intake from German, and is most popular in Silesia region.

[Verso]

^ So it's a lot of us who use this German expression in spoken language (also Slovenians, Turks, ...), but I find it especially useful in English, as it has bunch of words, which just confuse everyone (like motorway, freeway, expressway, highway, ...).

[Minato ku]

Autobahn = Motorway= Autoroute= Autostrada= Autopista etc
It is the same word in different language.

[earthJoker]

...but I find it especially useful in English, as it has bunch of words, which just confuse everyone (like motorway, freeway, expressway, highway, ...).
I agree, and don't forget Tollway, which get's into confuson aswell. An autobahn doesn't have to be toll/maut free for example the Brennerautobahn has a maut.

[aswnl]

The first road resembling an Autobahn was built 1921 in Berlin (the AVUS). However the first real Autobahn was built 1924 in Italy (Milan-Como).
Not true. Before WW-II the Italians havent build a single kilometer of dual-carriageway autostrada. The pre-war autostrada is quite unlike what we nowadays describe as a "motorway"/freeway/Autobahn.

[Justme]

The Plural of Autobahn is Autobahnen, not Autobahns! Just so you know.

There are two main reasons for this:

No.1: Autobahn is actually an English word... now. Of cause, it's originally a German word for the German Motorway's, and the English word "Autobahn" is used only in reference to the Germanic nations motorway systems. However, it is now officially a word in English and to be found in the English dictionary. This means, that it is grammatically correct to use the "s" to signify a plural. (It is also worth pointing out that you can correctly use "en" as well in English, but it is not widely used)

The 2nd reason many people place the "s" for the plural is when it is in an English sentence. If spoken in German naturally, one would end with "en". In most cases, in English, the English Grammar doesn't change to foreign language grammar if throwing in a non-English noun (Autobahn being a common noun). Otherwise it would be far too confusing for everyone to know every linguistic plural combination out there for every language. I suspect this is the case ion most languages.

So to be honest, you are incorrect if referring to Autobahn in an English sentence. It is officially both "s" and "en" in English, but "s" is by far the most common (and still correct) usage.

[Brice]

Just so you know.

In german perhaps, but not in English.

The plural of bureau in English is bureaus, not bureaux.

[Verso]

Ok, I think we got it, the thread can be closed down now. :D

[Alargule]

Nice to see there'll always be people who take nonsense threads (or should that be 'threaden'?) seriously...;)

[eomer]

The word "Autobahn" is much more famous in the world than Autoroute or Autopista, but they are doing good too.

The most famous word in the world is "Autostrada" (Italian) because it was the first to be used. Autobahn came later and refered to the raillway word "Bahn".
In France, Belgium, Switzerland, it became "Autostrade" in the 1950'. "Autoroute" replaced it later and nobody know why.

[ChrisZwolle]

The most famous word in the world is "Autostrada" (Italian) because it was the first to be used.

it wasn't.

That road was just an expressway with level crossings and no median. Not anything we are used to see now.

[Chicagoago]

:master: Yup...

Germany...

Autobahn and Oktoberfest are the things that come to mind first. Not that that's a bad thing at all!! I LOVE Germany, and thanks for the clarification, I would have said Autobahns actually.

Pretty funny that people think everyone drives 180KM/HR on these things screaming and going crazy as they fly down the road like an American would. Of course, this is just cause our speed limits are only 105-120KM/HR in America. When we think of going as fast as you want, we think of 18 year old kids in America who fly down the road at their cars top speeds without a care what happens to them - since that's usually the only ones who would do something so stupid with no knowledge how to control a car at fast speeds, and on roads not perfected for top speeds.

I've only been on the 'bahn once, and it was going to the airport in Munich. The guy was going maybe 135KM/HR, but of course we were thinking "oh la la, so fast"

[ChrisZwolle]

I've only been on the 'bahn once, and it was going to the airport in Munich. The guy was going maybe 135KM/HR, but of course we were thinking "oh la la, so fast"

I have quite some experience driving on German Autobahnen, i travel through this country mutiple times a year.

On most Autobahnen, the general speed is between 130 / 150km/h. There are some guys who drive 200km/h, especially on the deserted Autobahnen in the Northwest and Northeast, but clearly not everyone.
And traffic is very disciplined in Germany.

The accident-rate on Autobahnen is not higher than other countries in Western Europe.

[Verso]

I've only been on the 'bahn once, and it was going to the airport in Munich. The guy was going maybe 135KM/HR, but of course we were thinking "oh la la, so fast"

:lol:

Once I was so stupid to dare driving 190 km/h in Switzerland.:) It was probably Swiss record of the month.:lol:

[Chicagoago]

^ I think people have the misconception that since these German roads don't have limits, then EVERYONE must just slam their foot on the gas pedal and not let up until they've flown off a bridge or get to their destination.

Obviously if you rationally think of it, why would a normal person be going as fast as humanly possible in their car every time they drive. People are very responsible drivers in Germany - you have to be if you want the privilege of driving as fast as you feel.

It's like drugs being tolerated in Amsterdam. People think - oh, you can do drugs and the cops won't bust you - EVERYONE must be getting high all the time. The first time I went there I asked my friend about it who's from Amsterdam, he said "no, the Dutch might smoke a joint every once in awhile to relax, as you'd go to a pub - but much of the business coffeeshops get is from tourists like yourself". Of COURSE, I was racing to a coffeeshop with him as we had this conversation.

[_UberGerard_]

is autobahn already an internationalism?

[Alex Von Königsberg]

^ I think people have the misconception that since these German roads don't have limits, then EVERYONE must just slam their foot on the gas pedal and not let up until they've flown off a bridge or get to their destination.

Obviously if you rationally think of it, why would a normal person be going as fast as humanly possible in their car every time they drive. People are very responsible drivers in Germany - you have to be if you want the privilege of driving as fast as you feel.
^^ Absolutely. For most foreigners first thing that comes to mind when they hear the word "Autobahn" is "No speed limit". For me, "Autobahn = Excelent Drivers' Discipline". If I want to drive as fast as I want, I can go to Nevada and do it on I-80 in rural areas, but I-80 will not become the autobahn just because you can put the pedal to the metal there.

[gladisimo]

When I think of the autobahns (XD) I think of no speed limit, but not because I can floor my car to 180 mph, but rather have ease of mind about not having to worry about straying over the limit and be able to travel at a speed that suits me, and not have to look around every nook and cranny to see if a cop is hiding there waiting to hand me a ticket.

[DanielFigFoz]

That's not some German particularity; no country is so stupid to build sharp curves, if not necessary.

Portugal is :ohno: