Could have snowed!

[Imperfect Ending]

It's sleeting in Avalon

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6388/hkvvhoz5.jpg


and even inland earlier

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5920/hkvvhng2.jpg

[Fern~Fern*]

Jesus, Peep's in L.A. don't know how to drive in a Little Drizzle. Just Imagine if snow was to land in the City.....
Villaraigoza would need to call out "State of Emergency" I tell you we would panic as if it's the end of the World!!!!!

"Run for your Life..................." Lol*

[Joey313]

It will never snow in L.A especially with global warming

[solongfullerton]

It was F'ing cold in Santa Monica last night. I walked down to the coffee bean last night for some hot cocoa and the cold air was going right through my jeans. Good thing I had my wool coat on, but i needed some thermal pants and a scarf. I'm sure east coasters are calling us a bunch of pussies, but when you never get weather like this, its very hard to adjust to.

[phattonez]

It will never snow in L.A especially with global warming

If that was sarcasm, then it would have been hilarious.

If it was serious, then I'd be a little confused.

[JARdan]

I saw on the news that it snowed in Southern California. Where did it snow?

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

in the inland areas like rancho cucomonga, Riverside and other foothills. the snow loever was below a 1000 feet, very rare in these parts, so it probably would have snowed in Downtown Los Angeles if there was enough moisture. Unfortunatley it was a very dry storm. Almost every winter we get storms that have snow levels around 1500 - 2000 feet, so the valleys, foothills and deserts do get some snow every year, but when it drops down to leverls like last night, it could have snowed at the beach! The lows will be in the 20's tonight for the valleys and low 30's for the beaches. The Mountains above 10,000 feet will go below 0 and the wind chills might get as low as -30!!

[solongfullerton]

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, supposed to get to or near freezing tonight at the beach. I can't remember that ever happening before.

[Fern~Fern*]

[QUOTE=solongfullerton;11290937] I walked down to the coffee bean last night for some hot cocoa and the cold air was going right through my jeans. Good thing I had my wool coat on,


^^:ohno: Wool Coat...... PETA is going to be all over you buddy!!!!

[Imperfect Ending]

You don't kill sheep for wool...

[Imperfect Ending]

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/1198/untitledpu4.jpg

another night below freezing! ( Los Angeles )

[Westsidelife]

As of right now, it is colder in LA than in it is NYC.

[derek5]

holy shit fuck! yea its already 39 where i live in SD...24 expected tonight!

[LANative]

It was extremely cold last night, some areas were in the teens. Finally real winter in Southern California.

[solongfullerton]

Finally!!???!?!?!!? Are you kidding me? this totally sucks, its way too cold!

[Westsidelife]

It's 38 degrees right now!

[savvysearch]

I watching Everybody Loves Raymond where he says something like "it's great for golfing. It's like 40 degrees!!" Very sad that this type of weather is considered good weather on the east coast.

[Captain Hook]

This is why I love Florida.
Nights in CA can be a little bit too cool for me. I prefer wearing t-shirts and shorts day and night from january to december.

But that aside. Global warming can do both. It can bring extremely hot air into California and again seriously cold weather too.

[alex3000]

Guys, come on... :sleepy: So we're in the low 30's... and?

It honestly doesn't feel that cold. I mean, pretty much the only reason I "know" it's cold is because when I got on the car, it said that the temp. inside the car was 38 F. But like, I've only been sleeping with one blaket and I'm only wearing one sweater and shirt. I wear the same when we're in the 40's or low 50's.

So yeah... I'm kind of dissappointed I'm not cold... because I like cold weather.

[Imperfect Ending]

I love the cold weather but my hands are all chapped and everything

[The Baz]

37 degrees now :(

[JARdan]

Does anyone have pics of this? Snow or not, I wanna see what it's like for the LA people in the "cold." This is rather amusing.

It's currently 18F/-8C with a low of 14F/-10C tonight here in Fredericton, New Brunswick.

See, it might get cold down there, but just remember that it's fucking cold here.

[Fern~Fern*]

Guys, come on... :sleepy: So we're in the low 30's... and?

It honestly doesn't feel that cold. I mean, pretty much the only reason I "know" it's cold is because when I got on the car, it said that the temp. inside the car was 38 F. But like, I've only been sleeping with one blaket and I'm only wearing one sweater and shirt. I wear the same when we're in the 40's or low 50's.

So yeah... I'm kind of dissappointed I'm not cold... because I like cold weather.



^ Then turn off the heat and open the frickin windows.....Then tell us all about tomorrow!

[Fern~Fern*]

37 degrees now :(



I hear you Baz...... Good thing were @ 49 degrees now. Not to much of a difference but way better than 37. Even the dogs being walked are all bundled up with some nice sweaters, no wool off course. I hate this weather!!!!!!:gaah:

I can't even go outside and water my grass.....

[klamedia]

I love the cold weather but my hands are all chapped and everything
"Aqua" again is funny as shit!

[phattonez]

Global warming can do both. It can bring extremely hot air into California and again seriously cold weather too.

WTF? Are you serious? Global warming can make the world colder? This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

You'll hate me for saying this, but global warming is just a myth used by enivronmental groups. There isn't enough evidence to even prove the existence, let alone that it is caued by man.

[JARdan]

WTF? Are you serious? Global warming can make the world colder? This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

You'll hate me for saying this, but global warming is just a myth used by enivronmental groups. There isn't enough evidence to even prove the existence, let alone that it is caued by man.
It can make some of it colder. Global warming is causing extremes in weather patterns and is throwing them out of whack, most notably the "conveyor" belt that runs in the Atlantic Ocean bring warm air/water to western Europe.

I think the fact that the hottest years on record have all occurred in the last decade are reason enough to believe that the earth is warming. In northern Canada last month, a HUGE ice shelf broke away. It is 66 sq km in area, an area bigger than Manhattan.

Whether or not this is all caused by man, who knows. However, there is no denying that the earth's temperature is increasing.

[IlEstAndré]

Boohoo. 31 degrees. That is nothing. OMG SLEET, THE END OF THE WORLD

[Fern~Fern*]

^^ It is a huge deal when it really should be like 72 degrees (Winter) in Los Angeles. You know Sunny California.... Hello! this is East Coast Weather and truly they can keep it.
This is consider hell in earth for Angelinos....

[Imperfect Ending]

Ok why the fuck are people bashing this thread?

whatever.

Well I don't think houses in Los Angeles are well insulated for cold weather either.

[Westsidelife]

^^ It is a huge deal when it really should be like 72 degrees (Winter) in Los Angeles. You know Sunny California.... Hello! this is East Coast Weather and truly they can keep it.
This is consider hell in earth for Angelinos....

^Get over it. It's not that big of a deal...well to me it isn't. Winter should be cold. Otherwise I like it pretty mild for the rest of the year.

PS, you spelled Angeleno wrong. But why should you care? It's hell here...

[Westsidelife]

Oh BTW, this is not "East Coast weather." San Francisco is just as cold and Seattle is a lot colder than NYC, Chicago, Boston, DC, Philly, etc.

[LA-dude]

I dont know....i just think that if it IS going to be this cold we should at least get a lot of snow out of it.....so its not a complete drag....i heard it even snowed in Montclair and Riverside a couple days ago :shocked:

[LANative]

Finally!!???!?!?!!? Are you kidding me? this totally sucks, its way too cold!

No im not kidding, I love cold weather.

[kidA]

Ok why the fuck are people bashing this thread?

whatever.

Well I don't think houses in Los Angeles are well insulated for cold weather either.

My house doesn't have insulation so it's REALLY cold in here.

I've just been using my peacoat for the past month, but yesterday, I had to start wearing my scarf.

I love winter fashion. :-)

[phattonez]

It can make some of it colder. Global warming is causing extremes in weather patterns and is throwing them out of whack, most notably the "conveyor" belt that runs in the Atlantic Ocean bring warm air/water to western Europe.

I think the fact that the hottest years on record have all occurred in the last decade are reason enough to believe that the earth is warming. In northern Canada last month, a HUGE ice shelf broke away. It is 66 sq km in area, an area bigger than Manhattan.

Whether or not this is all caused by man, who knows. However, there is no denying that the earth's temperature is increasing.

That's not reason enough for me. We haven't been recording temperature for a long enough period to prove anything. I could even use this winter in Los Angeles to prove Global Cooling.

[alex3000]

^ Then turn off the heat and open the frickin windows.....Then tell us all about tomorrow!

I didn't have the heater on when I was in the car and I haven't had the heater on here at my house at all.

... and I open my room's windows every day or else it'll smell ... funny.

I know it's cold, but it's not that cold. Just put a sweater on and you'll be fine.

Works for me...

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

WTF? Are you serious? Global warming can make the world colder? This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

You'll hate me for saying this, but global warming is just a myth used by enivronmental groups. There isn't enough evidence to even prove the existence, let alone that it is caued by man.

oh boy.

[The Baz]

... yea I wasn't going to go near that. :scouserd:

[JARdan]

Above.

[JARdan]

That's not reason enough for me. We haven't been recording temperature for a long enough period to prove anything. I could even use this winter in Los Angeles to prove Global Cooling.
I highly recommend you watch An Inconvenient Truth, and then re-evaluate your position. There are other techniques to prove change in temperatures such as using the varied colour in ice core samples from the south pole.

[phattonez]

And how long have those been recorded for? No matter the technique, there is not enough evidence because the data have not been recorded for a long enough period of time.

[Joey313]

^^Carbon dioxide and other gases warm the surface of the planet naturally by trapping solar heat in the atmosphere. This is a good thing because it keeps our planet habitable. However, by burning fossil fuels such as coal, gas and oil and clearing forests we have dramatically increased the amount of carbon dioxide in the Earth’s atmosphere and temperatures are rising.

The vast majority of scientists agree that global warming is real, it’s already happening and that it is the result of our activities and not a natural occurrence.1 The evidence is overwhelming and undeniable.
We’re already seeing changes. Glaciers are melting, plants and animals are being forced from their habitat, and the number of severe storms and droughts is increasing.
The number of Category 4 and 5 hurricanes has almost doubled in the last 30 years.2 Malaria has spread to higher altitudes in places like the Colombian Andes, 7,000 feet above sea level.3
The flow of ice from glaciers in Greenland has more than doubled over the past decade.4
At least 279 species of plants and animals are already responding to global warming, moving closer to the poles.5

If the warming continues, we can expect catastrophic consequences.

Deaths from global warming will double in just 25 years -- to 300,000 people a year.6

Global sea levels could rise by more than 20 feet with the loss of shelf ice in Greenland and Antarctica, devastating coastal areas worldwide.7

Heat waves will be more frequent and more intense.

Droughts and wildfires will occur more often.

The Arctic Ocean could be ice free in summer by 2050.8
More than a million species worldwide could be driven to extinction by 2050.9

There is no doubt we can solve this problem. In fact, we have a moral obligation to do so. Small changes to your daily routine can add up to big differences in helping to stop global warming. The time to come together to solve this problem is now

[JARdan]

And how long have those been recorded for? No matter the technique, there is not enough evidence because the data have not been recorded for a long enough period of time.
lol, those core samples go back 1000's of years of thawing and refreezing.

[Fern~Fern*]

.... So where's Global Warming Now?

I'm literately freezing my ass off. The cold is rising from the bottom of the house. Wood floors suck in the winter time..... Oh my, my hands are stiff dry. I need some lotion!!!

[Booyashako]

At least for you guys that was only a couple days. We have to endure this for months...

BTW...curse California for sending the winter weather our way. Take it back! Take it back!

[sean11]

It has been cold the last couple of days I live in La Crescenta and it was 15 F on saturday and its still going to be below freezing tonight and tomorrow. To bad there wasn't that much moisture in this storm, it could have snowed in downtown. :ohno:

[phattonez]

^^Carbon dioxide and other gases warm the surface of the planet naturally by trapping solar heat in the atmosphere. This is a good thing because it keeps our planet habitable. However, by burning fossil fuels such as coal, gas and oil and clearing forests we have dramatically increased the amount of carbon dioxide in the Earth’s atmosphere and temperatures are rising.

The vast majority of scientists agree that global warming is real, it’s already happening and that it is the result of our activities and not a natural occurrence.1 The evidence is overwhelming and undeniable.
We’re already seeing changes. Glaciers are melting, plants and animals are being forced from their habitat, and the number of severe storms and droughts is increasing.
The number of Category 4 and 5 hurricanes has almost doubled in the last 30 years.2 Malaria has spread to higher altitudes in places like the Colombian Andes, 7,000 feet above sea level.3
The flow of ice from glaciers in Greenland has more than doubled over the past decade.4
At least 279 species of plants and animals are already responding to global warming, moving closer to the poles.5

If the warming continues, we can expect catastrophic consequences.

Deaths from global warming will double in just 25 years -- to 300,000 people a year.6

Global sea levels could rise by more than 20 feet with the loss of shelf ice in Greenland and Antarctica, devastating coastal areas worldwide.7

Heat waves will be more frequent and more intense.

Droughts and wildfires will occur more often.

The Arctic Ocean could be ice free in summer by 2050.8
More than a million species worldwide could be driven to extinction by 2050.9

There is no doubt we can solve this problem. In fact, we have a moral obligation to do so. Small changes to your daily routine can add up to big differences in helping to stop global warming. The time to come together to solve this problem is now

Can you prove that this is global warming and not a temporary climate shift?

[Facial]

It snowed once in the 1940s, if I remember correctly.

[Fern~Fern*]

Sean11 and Facial where the heck have you fellows been? Good to see hear from you again!!!!

Getting back on topic I went to ihop down the street and it's really not that cold anymore. It felt colder around noon and especially the last two days. Also glad to hear that by mid to end of the week we are going back to high 60's or possible warmer..... yay*

[The Baz]

It was warming up around 4pm but the temps plummeted again once night fell. Guess I'll have to break out the big coats.

[klamedia]

Very cool much better avitar.

[sojourner truth ™]

... and it dropped down to -23F last night here.

[Fern~Fern*]

^ Where is here?

[Westsidelife]

Is there a chance that it will snow tonight? It's gonna be in the high 30s and it might possibly rain as well.

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

well, it snowed in Malibu, Bel Air, on Wilshire and Santa Monica at the VA!!!! Venice, and the rest of the westside. more tongiht possibly with wrap around moisture. first snow in West LA since the 40's. Cool.

[Imperfect Ending]

IT SNOWED!!!! IT SNOWED WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL!!!

[Fern~Fern*]

Snow in L.A..... WHAT!!!!!!

Time to pack my bags and move to Can~Cun!

[JARdan]

I wanna see pics of this shit!

[Booyashako]

YAY for you guys!

[Booyashako]

nvm...

[Fern~Fern*]

Was anyone able to do a snow angel?

[Imperfect Ending]

OMG OMG...more is on the way for LA! *ahem* long term forecast *ahem*

http://www.theweathernetwork.ca/weather/cities/usa/Pages/USCA0638.htm



What's with that?

[Imperfect Ending]

Snow Falls in Malibu

http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/photo_servlet?contentId=2093527&version=1&locale=EN-US&subtype=MIMG&siteId=1003&isP16=true

Last Edited: Wednesday, 17 Jan 2007, 5:14 PM PST
Created: Wednesday, 17 Jan 2007, 4:59 PM PST
Los Angeles -- A fast-moving cold storm dropped snow in the mountains above Malibu, left white coats of hail in the city and unleashed a blizzard that temporarily closed Interstate 5 north of Los Angeles on Wednesday.

It was the latest blast from a cold snap that has kept California in an icy grip for a week.

Sleet made driving treacherous on Kanan Dume Road, a steep route through the Santa Monica Mountains where it's more typical to see beach-bound cars loaded with surfboards than a snowplow.

"One of our sergeants said he hadn't seen anything like this in 20 years," said California Highway Patrol Officer Leland Tang at the West Valley Station.

A probation officer at a juvenile camp in the Santa Monicas said he was traveling down Kanan Dume when it began to snow.

"It was snowing pretty good," said Officer Oscar Cross. "The road was covered in ice and slush, and I saw one car slide into a ditch. Everyone seemed scared to drive."

Cross said that when he reached Pacific Coast Highway, the weather turned "nice and sunny."

"I've never seen such a weird change like that," he said.

In the Tehachapi Mountains, midmorning heavy snow and ice caused big-rigs to jackknife on Interstate 5 and block traffic over 4,144-foot Tejon Pass between the Los Angeles Basin and the San Joaquin Valley.

"It was a cell that hit us. We had no idea that it was coming, it just hit us all at once," said Officer Dave Pokorny of the CHP's Newhall Station.

In Ventura County, northwest of Los Angeles, a portion of State Route 33 about 12 miles north of Ojai, was closed due to snow and ice, said Marie Raptis, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Transportation.

Snow mixed with hail also fell at lower elevations of northern Los Angeles County, leaving some neighborhoods with rare coatings of white.

The National Weather Service said the wintry precipitation was from an upper-level low moving through the region.

The cold set in late last week, bringing night after night of freezing overnight temperature to many parts of the state and causing extensive agricultural damage.

In the high desert north of Los Angeles, the early morning low was 8 degrees at Lancaster and 14 at Palmdale. Numerous other points in Southern California had lows in the 30s, with some areas in the 20s. Downtown Los Angeles was 44 overnight.

In the Van Nuys area of the San Fernando Valley, where the morning low was 35, a 6-inch water main broke and flooded a street. Service was cut to 30 homes, said Carol Tucker, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power.

The city's water mains don't freeze because they are underground, but extremely cold water can cause the cast iron pipes to crack, Tucker said.

Fire departments across Southern California have reported hundreds of calls in recent days about burst pipes. The Victorville courthouse got flooded when sprinkler heads ruptured, and broken irrigation lines may have caused a mudslide that blocked a private road to five Pasadena homes with 150 tons of debris Monday night.

[Imperfect Ending]

Snow Dusts Malibu, Closes I-5: Is This L.A.?

By Sharon Bernstein and Martha Groves, Times Staff Writers

January 17, 2007, 7:56 PM PST

It wasn't exactly a snow day. But Southern California's six-day cold snap took a surreal turn today as a rare snowstorm brought out snowplows to the canyons above Malibu, left parts of the San Fernando Valley with a white dusting and shut down Interstate 5 for most of the day.

Northbound I-5 at the Grapevine was expected to remain closed all night because of heavy snow.


The snow levels plunged well below 1,000 feet, blanketing the Santa Monica Mountains with snow and leaving streets and lawns in Venice, Santa Monica, Westwood and beyond covered with ice from pea-sized hail.

Westlake Village resident Joy Blanchard and her 16-year-old daughter, Sasha, parked their Lexus SUV on the side of Kanan Road Wednesday afternoon after a Costco run to take in the snow-capped peaks. They ended up building a small snowman by the side of the road.

"This like, makes my year," said Sasha, who had seen snow only once before in Mammoth.

Jen Naylor was in Santa Monica when she called her sister in Westwood and could hear her children screaming in the background about snow piling up in the backyard of their Westwood home.

She raced to the neighborhood off Montana Avenue and found snow on rooftops as well as on lawns.

Her sister's children had pulled out their ski gear and were playing with the white stuff in the backyard.

"This was the first time I made a snowman in L.A." said Naylor, an Los Angeles native. "We used dried cranberry for the eyes and a baby carrots for the nose because it was a baby snowman."

Of course, some forecasters would debate whether some residents were seeing actually snow or a heavy accumulation of ice from hail.

Forecasters said a stronger than expected low pressure storm system high in the atmosphere was responsible for turning a merely cold day into one of snow, rain and hail.

Jamie Meier, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service, said some Westside residents might have confused snowfall with intense hail that left the ground covered in snow-like ice. But the service did confirm the real white stuff fell in Santa Clarita, Malibu Hills and part of the West San Fernando Valley.

The low-pressure system under normal circumstance would have brought a typical rainstorm through L.A. But the cold snap turned the rain into snow and hail, she added.

"We were expecting a thunderstorm," Meier said. "The snow levels dropped a bit lower than we were expecting but it wasn't out of the question since it has been so cold."

[Fern~Fern*]

What's with that?



^ It's a Canadian thing.....:lol:

[Imperfect Ending]

Westwood
http://yourscene.latimes.com/PHOTOS/LATM/1UserPhotos/37479E.jpg

[Fern~Fern*]

It's beginning to sound like Christmas, again. Wow that's crazy and it's not as cold as it was 2 day ago. I hope snow moves up to the SouthWest of L.A. soon. If so does LAX cancelled all flights?

[Imperfect Ending]

Probably won't happen again in a long time...

[Elsongs]

Westwood
http://yourscene.latimes.com/PHOTOS/LATM/1UserPhotos/37479E.jpg

Damn Westsiders...Why do THEY get all the snow? Hmph... :ohno: LOL

[Imperfect Ending]

^^ don't be jealous

[Fern~Fern*]

Probably won't happen again in a long time...



^ Doesn't the forecast predict similar weather for the remaining of the month. So this is Winter in Los Angeles.... Huh!

[Imperfect Ending]

^^ last week's lows were in the 30s

[Elsongs]

^^ last week's lows were in the 30s

Ah, but there was zero moisture!

[Imperfect Ending]

I know.. my face is all stiff now...

SNOW VIDEO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAkXAsM6E4k

look at the palm trees... lol

[Fern~Fern*]

So what are the chances of getting snow this week?

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

Westwood (UCLA area)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/westwood.jpg
West LA
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/Wla.jpg
Westwood Hills
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/westwoodhills.jpg
UCLA
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/UCLA.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/truck.jpg
Malibu
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/malibu.jpg
West LA (Wilshire Blvd, VA Hospital!)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/palmtrees.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/cool.jpg
this Fauna looks weird with snow around it
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/Backyard.jpg
Brentwood
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Imyurdada/brentwood.jpg

[Fern~Fern*]

Palm Trees and Snow don't look good together at all. Wow I guess Global Warming was nothing but bull. Anyhow the second pix with the Snowman is not sooooo L.A.

[Elsongs]

Palm Trees and Snow don't look good together at all. Wow I guess Global Warming was nothing but bull. Anyhow the second pix with the Snowman is not sooooo L.A.

Global Warming indicates the *average* overall global temperature. Even with this cold weather, if we got even higher record highs this summer and showed a 2-degree average increase over last year, it would still mean an increase in temperature.

[LANative]

Well I guess L.A. will now qualify as a "Christmas City" if it snows here around Christmas time this year but who knows?

Anyway, I guess its possible for it to snow around Downtown L.A. and the L.A. basin or even some parts of the Valley.

[Joey313]

OMG wow snow

[saiholmes]

Snowplows in Malibu?
By Sharon Bernstein and Martha Groves, Times Staff Writers
7:57 PM PST, January 17, 2007

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-01/27426461.jpg
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-01/27424464.jpg

It wasn't exactly a snow day.

But Southern California's six-day cold snap took a surreal turn Wednesday as a rare snowstorm brought out snowplows to the canyons above Malibu, left parts of the San Fernando Valley with a white dusting and shut down Interstate 5.

The snow levels plunged well below 1,000 feet, blanketing the Santa Monica Mountains with snow and leaving streets and lawns in Venice, Westwood and beyond covered with ice from pea-sized hail.

A stronger than expected low pressure storm system high in the atmosphere turned a merely cold day into one of snow, rain and hail, said Jamie Meier, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service.

The system under normal circumstance would have brought a typical rainstorm through L.A. But the cold snap turned the rain into snow and hail, she added.

"We were expecting a thunderstorm," Meier said. "The snow levels dropped a bit lower than we were expecting."

The forecast for Thursday calls for continued chilly temperatures, with lows in 30s and 40s. Snow levels overnight are expected to hover at around 1,500 feet.

Forecasters said that while snow fell in Santa Clarita, Malibu's hills and parts of the West San Fernando Valley, Westside neighborhoods were more likely to have been hit with a heavy accumulation irregularly shaped hail stones called graupels that can be confused for snow flakes.

But don't tell that to Jen Naylor.

She was Santa Monica when she called her sister in Westwood and could hear her children screaming in the background about white stuff piling up in the backyard of their Westwood home.

She raced to the neighborhood off Montana Avenue and found what looked like snow on rooftops as well as on lawns.

Her sister's kids had pulled out their ski gear and were playing in the backyard.

"This was the first time I made a snowman in L.A," said Naylor, a Los Angeles native. "We used dried cranberry for the eyes and a baby carrots for the nose because it was a baby snowman."

Westlake Village resident Joy Blanchard and her 16-year-old daughter, Sasha, experienced the what forecasters agree was the real stuff while driving on Kanan Road. She parked Lexus SUV on the side of the road Wednesday afternoon after a Costco run to take in the snow-capped peaks. They ended up building a small snowman by the side of the road.

"This, like, makes my year," said Sasha, who had seen snow only once before during a trip to Mammoth.

Snow and hail was decidedly scattered across the Southland, with the worse conditions reported in the western parts of L.A. County, from the Grapevine where Interstate 5 was shut down by snow into parts of the Valley and Westside. It's been at least 18 years since some parts of the West Valley recorded any snow.

The weakening system was moving overnight southeast into Orange County and San Diego, but officials don't expect a repeat of Wednesday's surprise conditions.

The cold snap across California is blamed for widespread damage to the state's produce — mostly notably navel oranges. State agricultural officials continue to tally the price tag from freezing weather in farm areas, and say that their worst-case scenario includes possible losses of $1 billion.

At some grocery stores and farmers markets, consumers faced higher fruit and vegetable prices, and the cold felled nursery plants in several counties.

At the Santa Monica Farmer's Market, many produce booths were empty and those who were selling posted significantly higher prices. V. Kali, of Los Angeles, was buying a 25-pound bag of oranges, which usually costs $8 but today was $12.50. Loretta Khastoo, of Brentwood, had a wheeled cart full of strawberries, tomatoes, a huge Haitian squash and oranges. She said even beets had gone up in price, to two dollars from $1.50 last week.

"I don't know why beets would be higher," she said. If prices rise of Oranges rise significantly as expected, "I may not buy oranges."

The freeze also struck plants at wholesale and retail nurseries, where tender jacaranda trees being bred for market, along with ficus and a number of different types of shrubs succumbed to cold, said Robert Falconer, of the California Assn. of Nurseries and Garden Centers.

Home gardeners were also hit, discovering that the plants they had been cultivating with pride in Southern California's typically moderate climate had weakened or died.

Raun Burnham has watched in the last few days as the succulents at her Atwood Village home have withered. In an effort to protect a rare plant in her back yard, she's placed towels each night over it. "They are looking very droopy," she said. "The leaves used to stick straight out and now they look like Salvador Dali's watches."

Jose Perez Huizar, who owns a Los Angeles-based gardening service, said he has never seen so many frozen plants, including such iconic Southern California plans as bougainvillea and banana trees. The red bananas, he said, won't recover.

"I've been doing gardening work since I was a little kid and I've never seen this," he said.

Around 3 p.m. on Sawtelle Boulevard, a lightning bolt crackled through a glowering sky, thunder rumbled and a torrent of pea-sized hail began pelting cars and pedestrians. Joe Hashimoto, owner of Hashimoto Nursery, stood in his chilly office and shook his head in disbelief.

The icy pellets were adding further injury to his potted bushes and flowering plants. The cold snap had already "melted" 50 flats of impatiens plants, Hashimoto said, and killed 50 bushes in five-gallon pots and 100 bushes in one-gallon containers.

"It was too cold and icy," Hashimoto said.

But to others, the wintry scene Wednesday felt of magical — seeing a cityscape so often baked in sun instead covered with glistening white.

Near Mulholland Drive, about two dozen vehicles pulled along the shoulders to delight in the snow.

One of them was Margaret Seyffert and her daughter, who moved to Agoura Hills from South Africa a year ago and never expected to be playing in the snow.

"It's seriously cold," said her 13-year-old daughter, Laura, after flinging a handful of snow at her best friend, Izzy, 14. "It's miraculous."

[The Baz]

Very unusual, especially since it felt sort of warmer than it's been in a few days around my parts (southbay/westside)

[JARdan]

lol, priceless.

There can be a half foot of snow on the ground and you still won't see a snowplow here!

[sean11]

what is going on has New York even had snow it only rained at my house but thats ok it snows at my house at lest 1 or 2 times a year

[Fern~Fern*]

I don't believe were getting snow no time soon. It's warm outside with a lot of sunshine!!!! Yay!!!!

[JARdan]

Another 25cm on the way tomorrow!

... with a high of 1 degrees celsius! lol

[Fern~Fern*]

^^ Lucky for you guys, we only hit 72 degrees today!!!!

[Imperfect Ending]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auaYFN7VWvI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Y2IFuucQU

[Third of a kind]

wow snow in la, damn

what are the normal winter temperatures out there?

[Fern~Fern*]

^^ It's 59 degrees now with a lot of sunshine. So it feels more like 70 degrees than 59. Isn't L.A.'s weather just great!

[Tymel]

Enjoy the warmth. New York finally got it together and its 26 out now.

[Imperfect Ending]

wow snow in la, damn

what are the normal winter temperatures out there?


rarely below 45 ( at night )
and rarely below 55 ( daytime )

[Third of a kind]

god that is incredible and you guys don't have to deal with salt....man i envy that!

[Imperfect Ending]

well....
It's warming up now..

[Calvin W]

How can people survive in such inhumane conditions? Better call in the national guard!

[Octoman]

What I wouldnt do to have a bit of LA warmth now! Its absolutely freezing here and been snowing the last few days. My socks got all soggy walking to my train station and then an old granny slipped on some ice and sent me flying into the side of a bus shelter. Lovely.

[Fern~Fern*]

^ Soon enough you guys will enjoy nice warm days. As far as us.... we're just getting started with spring like weather.

PS. Bundle up Octoman!!!!!:nuts:

[Octoman]

^ Soon enough you guys will enjoy nice warm days. As far as us.... we're just getting started with spring like weather.

PS. Bundle up Octoman!!!!!:nuts:

Thanks Ferneyism

Little bit warmer now thankfully. May have another cold snap or two in february but it feels like we are over the worst now.

Roll on the summer time when I can sit in my garden and feel the sun on my face with a nice cool glass of orange juice in my hand (or maybe a gin and tonic)!

I have to say I am surprised to see southern california getting such cold weather. Surely this is unusual. If you are used to a warmer climate any drop in temperature can feel pretty unpleasant until you adjust.

[Fern~Fern*]

It sure is unpleasant when the temp drops below 60 degrees in L.A.. like someone mentioned before that most housing in LA is not designed for cold climate. Usually because there older homes without insulation. Thankfully the nightmare is over and we once again have nice mild Temp with Sunshine.

So yes I would enjoy a good glass of OJ with a splash of tonic or Gin in my garden.....

Like they say.... Wish you were here!!!!

[godblessbotox]

...this place is cold as shit. im wearing 3 layers and a coat at work right now an im still cold.

must be that constant 95* of the equator

[Fern~Fern*]

Tell them to shut the A/C off and everything would be alright. I just came from outside and it's nice comfy weather even with flip flops.

Botox your such a drama queen!!!!

[godblessbotox]

hey man they got to keep the computers cold!

im afraid of the outside... i thought you knew that