Greek Highways/Motorways/ Αυτοκινητόδρομος

[Giorgio]

I thought Id post about Greek Roads since Greece has a project that is still U/C at the moment which is one of the LARGEST construction projects in all of Europe.

http://www.egnatia.gr/flash/images/time.jpg

This project is the Egantia Odos. The road spans the entire length of Greece from east to west. It is 680km of modern motorway.
The project alone includes
- 1650 bridges
- 74 tunnels
- 50 interchanges
and much much more.

These Images of completed sections posted by cosmos. :cheers:

Close to Grevena town
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/6807/tntuh0980hw.jpg

Close to Veria (Kastania passing)
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6237/egn61ta.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9722/egn72fl.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7111/egn89tq.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3568/tn28100223rz.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7615/tn28100236vb.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3805/tn28100257we.jpg

Close to Veria city
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3466/egn13gz.jpg

Close to Thessaloniki (Koronia lake)
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9853/egn29gi.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2717/egn32xn.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9351/egn45io.jpg

Between Thessaloniki and Kavala (Asprovalta region)

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3109/tntrk0122yk.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1605/tntrk0138hs.jpg

Close to Komotini under snowfall
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1396/tnas1245vy.jpg

Close to Greek-turkish border under snowfall
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8899/tnas1217jd.jpg


Some construction pics:

http://observatory.egnatia.gr/images/PHOTOS/Egnatia_West-052.jpg

http://observatory.egnatia.gr/images/PHOTOS/Egnatia_West-060.jpg

http://observatory.egnatia.gr/images/PHOTOS/Egnatia_West-053.jpg


Ofcourse Greece has many new roads all beautifully crafted alongside the Greek landscape. The roads are also very scenic. More to come tommorow!

[Giorgio]

Nastyathenians great collection of pics from around Patras featuring the Enormous Rio-Antirio bridge - worlds longest cablestayed bridge
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1646/periferiakipatras1dn4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/3764/periferiakipatras2uo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3117/periferiakipatras3bn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/1765/periferiakipatras4bf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/8308/periferiakipatras5hn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5233/periferiakipatras6pj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7288/periferiakipatras7ey7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7393/periferiakipatras8ew3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5631/periferiakipatras9nd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5514/periferiakipatras10ae0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4975/periferiakipatras11ix6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5169/periferiakipatras12ws5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2847/periferiakipatras13ui0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9607/periferiakipatras14hu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/9027/periferiakipatras15yd1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/6316/periferiakipatras16ud6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4408/periferiakipatras17cj3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/8947/periferiakipatras18ah0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/110/periferiakipatras19pk7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8579/periferiakipatras20mk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6504/periferiakipatras21ld6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4794/periferiakipatras22pm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6474/rioantirrio1gp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8593/rioantirrio2ft4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3195/rioantirrio3ca2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/527/rioantirrio4eh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3482/rioantirrio5ee6.jpg

[sk]

very nice pics!its a very big project "egnatia odos" and it does deserve its own thread

[BL]

nice photos. Do u have a map of all Greek highways?

[Verso]

Nice highways.

[Almopos]

Some pictures of the Egnatia Odos posted by stadia.gr member Beethoven (I hope he does not mind)

Epirus mountains (north-western Greece)

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e183/chr6giann70/Epirus5.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e183/chr6giann70/Epirus3.jpg

Kastania (near the city of Veria)

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e183/chr6giann70/Kastania11.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e183/chr6giann70/Kastania2.jpg

Greveniotika bridge

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e183/chr6giann70/GreveniwtikosBridge2.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e183/chr6giann70/GreveniwtikosBridge.jpg

[ChrisZwolle]

Great Motorways.

I have a question. Is that road A1 from Athens via Thessaloniki towards the Macedonian border completely up to Motorway standards?
And do you think Turkey will build a motorway from Istanbul or Edirne to the Greek border, so it will connect with the A2?

[TYW]

i love the Rio Antirio Bridge. i saw its documentary the other day, awesome :okay:

[pilotos]

I have a question. Is that road A1 from Athens via Thessaloniki towards the Macedonian border completely up to Motorway standards?

Not all the raod is completed,most of the road is a highway so yes, but some parts like tembi havent been contructed yet, but they will be u/c soon i think.

And do you think Turkey will build a motorway from Istanbul or Edirne to the Greek border, so it will connect with the A2?
As far as i know they are planning to build a highway there, but they havent start it yet.

For more pics and info you can check http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=327086

[Geokioy]

Hi to everyone! I post some sites for anyone of you (especially non greeks) who need to know the current condition of major greek highways:
All the greek motorways:
http://motorways-exitlists.com/europe/gr/greece.htm
In the above site you will see that exist some old parts that haven't been upgrated yet to a motorway (Tempi Valley, Maliakos and Corinth-Patras sections of PATHE). These parts are among the most dangerous-high rate of accidents with dead:ohno:Hopefully works are under way...but we will have to wait some years...:ohno:
Athens Ring Road:
http://www.aodos.gr/homepageattiki.asp?catid=4466&mediaid=59&rootcatid=4496&defaultcatid=4496
Egnatia Motorway (Igoumenitsa-Ioannina-Thessaloniki-Kavala-Alexandroupoli):
http://www.egnatia.gr/flash/en/index.html
PATHE Motorway (Patra-Athens-THessaloniki-Evzonoi)
http://www.minenv.gr/4/45/4504/e450401.html
:)

[Giorgio]

Great pics almopos!

[Angelos]

These are planned motorways for greece and they will be completed in 2011-2012.We will have over 2200km of motorway including thessaloniki underwater artery which it will be completed in 4 years :cheers:


http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3716/greekhighways2012ar3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Angelos]

oh i forgot,some information about constructions on egnatia odos------Warning biggggggggggg picture


http://www.egnatia.gr/flash/images/progressmap/PS_FEBRUARY_2007_ENG.jpg

[Geokioy]

The Underwater Road Connection between Aktio and Preveza towns in Western Greece. It is part of the road Igoumenitsa-Preveza-Aktio-Amfilohia. This isn't a road with highway characteristics but in the majority of its length (Aktio-Igoumenitsa part) has 3 lanes (on uphills there are two lanes for the one direction and on downhills one lane) or 1+1 lane per direction (with the emergency lane). Here we focus on the underwater tunell...

General plan of the work...
http://www.bicepirus.gr/finestra/greek/transportmobillity/aktion.gif

The cement blocks that were constructed on the land and then were submerged in the sea and were put on the see bed to form the underwater tunnel. For details see the website in the end of this post!!!
http://www.minenv.gr/4/44/4405/00/ms05051.jpg

photos from the finished tunnel
http://www.akteotunnel.com/EN/HTML/Info/HM/Big/BIG_FOTO/3.jpg

http://www.akteotunnel.com/EN/HTML/Info/HM/Big/BIG_FOTO/4.jpg

http://www.akteotunnel.com/EN/HTML/Info/HM/Big/BIG_FOTO/5.jpg

For detailed info see: http://www.akteotunnel.com/EN/EN.htm
:)

[TheCat]

Very impressive project!
I noticed that in some pictures a yellow line is used to mark the edges of the
road, I find it interesting because not many countries do that, but then in others
only white lines are used.

Also it seems that most of the highway is made of concrete, like many US highways.

Great pics :)

[pilotos]

Concrete? everything is paved with asphalt, where did you noticed a concrete pavement?

As for the yellow lines its only used in places with fog or where construction isn't finished yet, and as i can see here its only one picture with yellow line, and it is in a tunnel entrance.

[Rebasepoiss]

Concrete? everything is paved with asphalt, where did you noticed a concrete pavement?

As for the yellow lines its only used in places with fog or where construction isn't finished yet, and as i can see here its only one picture with yellow line, and it is in a tunnel entrance.
The asphalt on these roads is so light-grey that it might look like concrete...

[TheCat]

Yes, I noticed later that it is asphalt, but it does look very gray :)

[Geokioy]

^^
Well, in the majority of the greek roads (especially non highways) the asphalt that is being used is not of high quality. This happens because they use gravel made by limestone, a rock that is not very resistant in friction. Also this influences the colour of the asphalt, making it less black...and that's why you misunderstood it for concrete...
:)

[pilotos]

Here are some details about the current projects and their completion date.

Egnatia odos: Motorway length=670Km, Project completion:within 2008, 165 km left and are currently u/c.
Motorway cost:4.4 bln Euros.
This motorway is part of the E90 pan European corridor.

Pathe motorway:length=730Km,Project completion:Within 2009,230 km left.
Motorway cost: bln Euros.
The motorway is part of the E75 Pan European corridor.

Ionian motorway:Length=382Km,Construction process will start within may 2007 and expected to be completed within 2013.
Motorway cost:1.8 bln Euros.
The motorway is part of the E65 Pan European corridor.

Tripoli-korinthos-kalamata-sparth motorway:Length=205Km
Project expected to be finished within 2012.
Motorway cost:1.044 bln Euros.
The motorway is part of the E65 Pan European corridor.

Central Greece motorway:Length=232Km
The project is currently freeze due to an objection on the bidding process by one of the competitors.
Cost:1.6 Bln Euro.
Part of the E92 Pan European corridor.

ΒΟΑΚ motorway(north Crete motorway):Length=226Km
The project is partly constructed, funds for the whole motorway aren't secured yet
Cost should be around 1.4 bln Euros.
The road is part of the Pan European corridor E75.

All those projects will give Greece a total motorway length of 2445 km(and with the existing network almost 3000km) , and the cost is calculated around 12 bln Euro.

And this will be the map of motorways in greece after the completion of those projects:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/486369107_af31742581_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/492784029_dca20de212.jpg?v=0

[Giorgio]

So there is almost 11bln Euro in road construction?
:eek:

[pilotos]

Actually even more since i cant find the exact cost of the pathe motorway, most of it was completed during the 96-2000 period, but there are around 230 km more to be constructed and i cant find the cost of those.
Plus i also have no clues about the motorway that is to be constructed in crete :(

[Almopos]

I read that the costs of the motorway that is to be constructed in Crete will amount to 1,4 bln Euro. It will run from Chania to Lasithi totaling 400 km.

[pilotos]

Thanks for that, but is there any chance that you do atually have a map of the motorway?:)

[radi6404]

Please show pics of the motorway from bulgarian border to thessaloniki, would be interesting to see it, is it completed? In bulgaria they are building it now.

[ChrisZwolle]

There will be a motorway from Thessaloniki to Sofija?

[radi6404]

There will be a motorway from Thessaloniki to Sofija?

Ofcourse, don´t you know, the project is allready very old, but still not finished. In bulgarian side they are building the motorway and as far as i know in greece they are allready finished.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1286/1019316vo2.jpg

this is near sofia leading to bulgarian border.

[ChrisZwolle]

I didn't know that :) are there any parts finished already?

[radi6404]

I didn't know that :) are there any parts finished already?

I told you there are 40 kilometers finished at pernik, as they say the motorway will be completed in 2012 / 2013

[Verso]

this is near sofia leading to bulgarian border.You mean Greek border. :P

[pilotos]

Hm i just remember a tunnel that opened a few years ago between Greece and Bulgaria, they called it the "friendship tunel" as for the motorway i have nu clues i ll search a bit:)

You mean Greek border. :P

Well he means the Greek-Bulgarian border ;)

[pilotos]

It seems that the part that you are probably speaking for its u/c still, but between greece and bulgaria in the future will be 4 in total motorways(egnatia's vertical axes) to connect the 2 countries, and 1 more freeway.

Here you can see the progress of the constructions, its from February 2007 though.

http://www.egnatia.gr/flash/images/progressmap/PS_FEBRUARY_2007_ENG.jpg

[Almopos]

Thanks for that, but is there any chance that you do atually have a map of the motorway?:)

Sorry, I could not find a map!

[pilotos]

Here are a couple of pics that i gathered from the thread in the Greek forum and the web(well a lot more actually:) ).

Attica motorway(ring-road):

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/87921544_0aa373eee3_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/102/305933383_7b723fc040_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/102/290553770_9158525c55_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/50/140449138_88470f5122_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/140449136_5d223e6bec_o.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_3c_SEA_Pallinis.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_4d_Perifereiaki_Imitou.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_4c_K_Papagou.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_2b_Skepasto_Irakleiou.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_2e_K_L_Pentelis.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_2g_K_L_Marathonos.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_3b_K_Kantzas.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_2a_K_Athinon_Lamias.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/gm2263/Athens%20Infrastructures/Atticaroad-HymettusRingTunnels1.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/gm2263/Athens%20Infrastructures/Atticaroad-HymettusRingTunnels4.jpg

http://www.airphotos.gr/photo/254.jpg

http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/gm22633/29410/354983/0/Athens+-+View+from+Hymettus+-+Hymettus+ring+2+compact.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c94/gm2263/Athens%20Skyscrapers%20and%20Modern%20Architecture%202/AttikiOdos-DoukissisPlakentiasJu-1.jpg

P.A.TH.E motorway:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/1/124773958_fa07d33e9c_o.jpg

http://www.aegek.gr/projects_b/EGNATIA424%20E.jpg

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/8631/pathe19yr.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4100/pathe36ev.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5264/tnath850476ly.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1329/tnath850376ok.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7185/tnath850428pg.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7772/tnath850263jz.jpg

http://www.airphotos.gr/photo/765.jpg

http://www.airphotos.gr/photo/327.jpg

http://www.michaniki.gr/newsite/images/old_erga/E117.jpg

http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/odopoiia/odopoiia_10.jpg

http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/odopoiia/odopoiia_11.jpg

http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/odopoiia/odopoiia_12.jpg

http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/odopoiia/odopoiia_14.jpg

http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/odopoiia/odopoiia_23.jpg

http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/odopoiia/odopoiia_29.jpg

http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/odopoiia/odopoiia_36.jpg

http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/odopoiia/odopoiia_38.jpg

http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/odopoiia/odopoiia_45.jpg

http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/odopoiia/odopoiia_84.jpg

http://www.ert.gr/aerialphoto/photos/big_new/odopoiia/odopoiia_86.jpg

Rio-antirio bridge(part of the future Ionian motorway):

http://webpages.charter.net/g.vassilakos/rion-antirion/bridge1.jpg

http://www.daniilidis.gr/main/rion/images/494_67.jpg

Egnatia motorway:

http://www.airphotos.gr/photo1/1691.jpg

http://www.roadtraffic-technology.com/projects/egnatia/images/6_PH1.jpg

http://www.airphotos.gr/photo3/3356.jpg

http://www.airphotos.gr/photo1/1636.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9351/egn45io.jpg

http://www.hctp.tee.gr/images/selected_pics/EGNATIA4.2_large.jpg

http://www.aegek.gr/aegekphotos_3/projects_b/egnatia4.2.4_1_b.jpg

http://www.aegek.gr/aegekphotos_3/projects_b/egnatia4.2.4_2_b.jpg

http://www.oeamtc.at/netautor/na_pro/wrapper/jpegs.php3?filename=Reisen=/TIP_Egnatia_Odos_4.jpg

And in Monday i ll come back with a small reportage from the part Larissa-Thessaloniki of the pathe motorway :cheers:

[pilotos]

And here is a map originally posted in the highways thread of Hellenic agora, showing the present situation in Greece:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/230/499603771_dd3fcae69a_o.jpg

[Verso]

^ Former republic of Yugoslavia, someone stayed in the beginning of the nineties.. Anyway, interesting map!

[ChrisZwolle]

Maybe they ment FYROM (Former Yugoslavian Republic Of Macedonia).

[Verso]

^ Who, what or where is that?

[ChrisZwolle]

FYROM is the official full name of Macedonia. Sometimes it is seen on maps.

[Verso]

^ Ok, Chris, I know. :lol: We were in the same country a decade and a half ago. ;) Anyway, it sounds like some sort of ice cream..

[ChrisZwolle]

^ Ok, Chris, I know. :lol: We were in the same country a decade and a half ago. ;) Anyway, it sounds like some sort of ice cream..

http://i2.tinypic.com/4knvl1w.png

[Verso]

^ :lol:

[pilotos]

Not that i mind having some off-topic discussion, but i would prefer some comments on the Greek roads instead :)

[ChrisZwolle]

Are there any decent online maps of Athens? I'd never look at that system so well, since lots of maps aren't that detailed.

[radi6404]

Not that i mind having some off-topic discussion, but i would prefer some comments on the Greek roads instead :)

I think there is too much concrete in your motorways, the ugly concrete crashbarriers get quite common lately, i hope that bulgaria will not use them aswell. but besides that they look quite good

[pilotos]

Nah they get really more beautiful after the construction is over and trees planted inside those barriers and in the side of the motorways, mainly to reduce the sound pollution though, but still they are ok, and i think those barriers are safer and thats why they use em.

Are there any decent online maps of Athens? I'd never look at that system so well, since lots of maps aren't that detailed.

You can always check google earth of course though its outdated, but with a fast search i did here are some maps:

Athens traffic map(updated every 15 mins): http://www.transport.ntua.gr/map/en/

A map of greece where you can choose every region to check it more closely: http://www.alpha-omegaonline.com/map_greece.htm

I am sure there are a lot more though, but i m bored to find em now, if you really wish to find more you can check until i do.

[Verso]

Not that i mind having some off-topic discussion, but i would prefer some comments on the Greek roads instead :)NP, just that by the "former republic of Yugoslavia", I was like "wtf"?! :)

Anyway, back to the juicy Greek motorways! :cheers:

[pilotos]

Road tunnels in greece, most of them are located in the new egnatia motorway, a motorway that has 100km of tunnels, anyway here is the list:

Tunnel-Length-Date of opening-Region-Province-Road

Driskos-4.581m-2005-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2-Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:4563m Section Pedini-Platania)

Metsovo-3.589m-2005-Ipiros+Thessaly-Ioannina+Trikala-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:3548m (1993). Section Metsovo-Panagia)

Port of Thessaloniki-3 398-Project-Thessaloniki-Central macedonia
(Second tube:2920m Subsea tunnel (immersed part: 2x1240))

Maliakos-3.350m-U/C-Sterea ellada-Fthiotida-E 75
(Immersed tunnel)

Dodoni-3.347m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:3347m Section Dodoni - Pedini)

Panagia(tunnel 1):2.667m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:2665m Section Panagia-Volo)

Arachtos-2.635m-U/C-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:2620m Section Pamvotida-Arachtos Zagoria)

Knimidos-2.500m-Project-PaThe

Pangaio-2.400m-Centreal Macedonia-Seres-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:2400m Section Asprovalta - Strimonas)

Symvolon-2.360m-U/C-East Macedonia and Thrace-Kavala-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:2360m Section Eleftheropoli-Kavala West)

Vermiou-2.244m-2006-Central Macedonia-Imathia-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:2239m Section Polimilos-Veria)

Nea Anelio-2.064m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:1986m Section Peristeri - Metsovo)

Preveza,Aktio-1.570m-2002-West Greece+Ipiros-Aitolokarnania+Preveza-E 55
(Immersed tunnel)

Girokomeion-1.552m-2002-West Greece-Ahaia
(Second tube:1552m - Patra bypass)

Syrto-1.522m-2007-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:1519m Section Panagia-Volo)

Gropa-1.470m-Project-Thessaly

Rapsomatis-1.407m-U/C-Peloponisos-Arkadia-A7-E65
(Second tube:1365m Section Asea-Rapsomatis)

Tymfristos-1.385m-Sterea Ellada-Fthiotida-N38

Artemision-1.360m-Peloponisos-Argolida+Arkadia-A7,E65
(Second tube:1360m Section Neochori-Nestani)

Agios Konstantinos(S2)-1.189m-U/C-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:965m Section Eleftherochori-Tyria)

Skala Skorlinga-1.151m-Ipiros-Arta-N30

Kremno-1.096m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2-Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube: 1091 m. Section Peristeri-Metsovo)

Mesochora dam-1.050m-2005-Thessaly-Trikala(Arta - Trikala highway)-N30

Koiloma(T11)-1.042m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:1027m Section Volo-Venetikos)

Agia Kiriaki(Pachtouri)-1.027m-14.01.2007-Thessaly-Trikala(Arta-Trikala highway)-N30

Kimis-900m-1995-Attica-Attica(Athens)

Patra-860m-1999-West Greece-Ahaia-E 65
(Second tube:790m 175 m in C&C)

Kostarakas(Kalamion)-854m-2006-Thessaly-Trikala-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:775m Section Metsovo-Panagia)

Koumaria(SN1)-850m-U/C-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:850m Section Eleftherochori-Tyria)

Venetikos-839m-2007-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:764m Section Venetikos-Grevena West)

S2-807m-2006-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second: tube:800m Section Tyria-Dodoni)

S13-802m-2006-Central Macedonia-Imathia-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:798m Section Polimilos - Veria)

Prionia(T4)-784m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:777m Section Volo-Venetikos)

S 1-781m-2006-Central Macedonia-Imathia-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:745m Section Lefkoptera - Veria)

SN13-780m-2006-Central Macedonia-Imathia-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:780m Section Polimilos-Veria)

Dio Korifon-754m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:743m Section Peristeri-Metsovo Cut&Cover)

Agnateros (T3)-723m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:714m Section Volo-Venetikos)

Karatsa (T12)-720m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:713m Section Volo-Venetikos)

Grika-710m-15.12.2004-Ipiros-Thesprotia-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:657m Section Vasilsikos-Neochori)

Archeologikos-710m-2002-West Greece-Ahaia
(Second tube:710m– Patra bypass)

Antochori-705m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:704m Section Peristeri-Metsovo Cut&Cover)

S3-700m-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:700m Section Tyria-Dodoni)

Dichalorematos-700m-Project-PaThe

Velnidia(T5)-642m-U/C-West Macedonia-Grevena-A2,Egnatia Motorway
(Second tube:642m Section Volo-Venetikos)

American college-640m-03.09.2003-Attica-Athens-A64-IWP
(Second tube:560m Section Dimokritos-Ag.Ioannis Kingos)

Vrilissio(Tunnel 13 TE12):580m-12.2002-Attica-Athens-A6,AO
(Cut&Cover Three parallel tubes each 580m)

Vasilsikos-560m-2003-Ipiros-Thesprotia-A2,Egnatia motorway
(Second tube:447m Section Vasilsikos-Neochori)

Vrahassi-550m-Crete-Lasithi-E 75

Neochori-530m-15.12.2004-Ipiros-Thesprotia-A2,Egnatia motorway
(Second tube:515m Section Neochori-Eleftherochori)

Votonosi-530m-2003-Ipiros-Ioannina-A2,Egnatia motorway
(Second tube:515m Section Peristeri-Metsovo Cut&Cover)

S12-522m-2006-Central Macedonia-Imathia-A2,Egnatia motorway
(Second tube:504m Section Polimilos - Veria)

Mesovouni-509m-15.12.2004-Ipiros-Thesprotia-A2,Egnatia motorway
(Second tube:496m - Section Vasilsikos-Neochori)

Tunnel 17 TE01-500m-2003-Attica-Athens(Cut&Cover)-A6,AO


There are also a lot of other tunnels with length less than 500 m , along with those the total tunnel lenght on highways in greece reaches
143 Km.

[ChrisZwolle]

that's a load of tunnels. Maybe the equal number as in Switzerland or Austria.

[Angelos]

ebales ta tunnels apo tin kakia skala?

[pilotos]

Στο άθροισμα είναι όλα μέσα στη λίστα όχι, είναι λίγο πολλά βλέπεις, θα τα προσθέσω αργότερα.

[Verso]

30% underground? W-O-W-!-!-!

[pilotos]

Hm i lied(mistaken) its only 7%(well not small still), its just 30% of the motorway cost, my mistake sorry for that.

[radi6404]

Hm i lied(mistaken) its only 7%(well not small still), its just 30% of the motorway cost, my mistake sorry for that.

I just wanted say that i can´t imagine it to be 30 %, but than i saw your post, 30 percent would be exremly much, 7 percent isn´t little though but 30 percent, even in austria there aren´t 30 percent tunnels on the mtoroways.

[Verso]

Hehe, 30% sounded crazy :) but 7% is still pretty much.

[KONSTANTINOUPOLIS]

Hi guys,nice thread you have here :)

Some very nice pics by Nickolas Lukas (airphotos.gr)

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7430/3005oe3.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8528/1452zl1.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/736/615ln9.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9605/377pn1.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4894/2644xa9.jpg

[Giorgio]

Nice pictures ofcourse Konst!
Thought id add this here too as I found it interesting. It was opened in 2002.
Aktio-Preveza Sub-sea Tunnel
The Preveza-Aktio Tunnel consists of a 910 m long immersed part and a 660 m long cut and cover part.

http://www.akteotunnel.com/EN/HTML/Info/Topo8esia/Big/BIG_FOTO/1.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3429/145442517a9e281d406o19cji3.jpg
http://www.akteotunnel.com/EN/HTML/Info/HM/Big/BIG_FOTO/4.jpg
http://www.akteotunnel.com/EN/HTML/Info/HM/Big/BIG_FOTO/5.jpg

[hify_ameet]

πολλυ γαλα

[ChrisZwolle]

Nice. There aren't so many sub-sea tunnels. We have one, but the deepest is in Norway i thought.

[pilotos]

Few pics i took recently while heading to the university:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/504758552_47726b8073_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/504758546_d62457cb24_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/200/504758540_4ff7af616a_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/229/504758538_ff61b279db_b.jpg

[ChrisZwolle]

where is that? Larissa?

Are Greek motorways tollways?

[pilotos]

Ye in Larissa, between Larissa junction 2 and 3, yes there are tolls located, don't know the distances though, but i ve heard that they are gonna change the tolls locations, prolly they ll place less on old motorways and more in new or something.

[pilotos]

Some photos from the parts of egnatia that are currently u/c.
All photos taken by Corfu(from www.stadia.gr).

Γ4:
http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia1.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia2.jpg

Cut & cover in the intersection of metsovo-ioannina national road with egnatia motorway:
http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia3.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia4.jpg

Arahthos bridge:
http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia5.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia6.jpg

Metovotikos bridge:
http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia7.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia8.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia9.jpg

Intersection between national road of grevena-khpoueiou with egnatia:
http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia10.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia11.jpg

Venetikou bridge
http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia12.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia13.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia14.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia15.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia16.jpg

Bridge between venetikou junction and venetikou bridge:
http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia17.jpg

Bridge between venetikou junction and west grevena junction:
http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia18.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia19.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia20.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia21.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia22.jpg

dilatation works between makris and dikelon junction
http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia23.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia24.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia25.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia26.jpg

http://www.kouletsini.com/Egnatia180507/egnatia27.jpg

[ChrisZwolle]

Very impressive. Thanks for posting. Is that the A2 east-west motorway? (what is a motorway called in Greek?)

[pilotos]

Yep its the A2-egnatia motrway.
The greek word is "αυτοκινητόδρομος"(Autokinetodromos).

[pilotos]

The last sunday i was in thessaloniki, so i took a lot of pics while travelling, i ll start posting them, they arent that great cause the weather was really bad but quite descent i hope.

Some 20 mins after we left the town and in the pathe motorway:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/228/512480369_72b3229d5f.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/203/512480389_cfd74edf85.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/210/512480397_1b2e04e93e.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/512480405_2b8964b338.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/512480421_94fd638216.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/512476012_1a747cf4f7.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/512476020_bc37226d32.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/512581490_8ecaa57416.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/512651687_2d2943cf70.jpg?v=0
On tembi tolls, the part from here isnt a motorway but just a 2 lanes road, it is supposed to be u/c soon, with tunnels crossing the tembi valley, which now is a really dangerous road due to the heavy truck traffic.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/512476030_dff2fdcf42.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/512476036_5f959c3a3a.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/199/512476044_97e23a523f.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/512529256_9ca0bd0c8c.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/512529262_8e0db675fb.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/203/512529278_a22311258d.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/512529322_d985caa46a.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/512529364_e74cad8511.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/512529372_4e3bbfe7cb.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/212/512581450_55716c0b48.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/512581452_89d2fbff80.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/222/512584826_4c801d15e9.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/513731750_79e9b10df9.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/513731748_5b976e99c5.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/513731744_a48fce04f9.jpg?v=0

The platamon castle next to the road
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/195/513731732_37b2a77dfc.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/513731722_6a032bc80b.jpg?v=0
The small town of Rapsani
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/513731714_ee5ba8903b.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/225/513718857_3c47415c60.jpg?v=0
A pretty nice view from the road to the aegean see
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/513718843_e9ae3dc15d.jpg?v=0

Again pretty, but dangerous, i ve been always afraid of this turn, and as you can see by the divider a lot of cars prefer the straight road :!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/208/513718841_552a5cb14d.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/209/513718821_75214d33a4.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/210/513718797_2a2a1552b2.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/222/513718765_e4c7e192e5.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/512651749_119271bdb7.jpg?v=0

Here there is a part constructed some years ago but never opened
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/512651731_c5181904f9.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/512651683_2090c9a64d.jpg?v=0

Getting close to the motorway again
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/512651703_6da8cef760.jpg?v=0

Entering the motorway after the tembi part
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/206/513794002_80416b5e72.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/224/513794012_9943e4c33b.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/212/513794018_5940e51c5d.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/198/513794024_ffb3767621.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/203/513794028_001cce3981.jpg?v=0

Tolls again(not working in this direction though, there are 3 tolls located in the road from Larissa to thessaloniki where you pay 2 times in each direction, a total of 4 euros)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/513794040_9200141a5b.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/512480371_f1d91dedfe.jpg?v=0

Some farms near the road
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/228/512651701_fa87c8698c.jpg?v=0

Ill continue as soon as i ll upload the rest:)

[ChrisZwolle]

Nice pics. Your fuel prices are 30 cents cheaper than here.

[giovani kun]

fantastic pictures love those bridges m))

[Angelos]

and dont forget,there are 2445 km under construction :)

[pilotos]

Nice pics. Your fuel prices are 30 cents cheaper than here.

That would be even cheaper, BP is always 10 cents above the average price, never understand why :?

[radi6404]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/512480371_f1d91dedfe.jpg?v=0

this is a copy of the Struma motorway in Bulgaria, it looks exactly the same.

Very impressive pics Pilotos, i am sure this motorway will be quite beautiful, fucking awesome.

[pilotos]

I ll continue with the rest of the pics:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/209/516602884_c91db499c0_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/238/516602900_15fe167a30_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/250/516602912_103c5f40b6_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/251/516602924_65a5b37e3a_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/236/516602940_f5d9abedab_b.jpg

View by the road
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/239/516623288_3b42abe5e3_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/252/516623330_bccd7d082f_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/516623334_a57e844f78_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/516623350_812a296da2_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/516623362_3fc3a65ac2_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/516623364_edb11bb5ce_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/516670567_9034d01e31_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/516670571_c00f20e7dd_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/236/516670575_55f55f7e50_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/516670581_e6cf9fb8d2_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/230/516670605_0a7d71729f_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/516670613_d6a0160898_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/194/516699273_299f3ab576_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/244/516699315_bced4935e5_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/516699317_b926c7c3f5_b.jpg

Entrance to the tunnel of Katerini, a tunnel that was made in order for the highway not to pass through the city.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/225/516699325_4074042e9f_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/516699329_9da181c0bd_b.jpg

Inside the tunnel
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/516699337_340989fdac_b.jpg

And near the tunnel exit
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/516719779_a9e10b3c15_b.jpg

Some km after the tunnel, this is a part constructed around 1991, and instead of concrete divider has a metal one, though the two directions are some 20m away from each other.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/246/516702498_58a7b4d99f_b.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3500/dscf03871cs9.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3237/dscf03901ga2.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2104/dscf03911uy5.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8353/dscf03921ye9.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3080/dscf04001wf0.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7848/dscf04041kt6.jpg

Thats all for now, i got owned by my camera's battery after that :(

[ChrisZwolle]

This road is really good build (2x3 lanes) for the amount of traffic!

[pilotos]

Well you cant say how the traffic is really from those pics , the pics were taken in Sunday, and its obvious that there isn't any traffic in Sunday :)

[ChrisZwolle]

Why do you drive the middle lane all the time? The right lane is free too...

[SouthernEuropean]

pilotos you have no idea how happy you made me with those updates!!!!especially those bridges and tunnels next to my place in Metsovo..thank you sooo much!!!!!!!:cheers:

[radi6404]

I doesn´t look that they work very good if i look the asphalt and if i look how the crashbarriers are bandy.

[pilotos]

Why do you drive the middle lane all the time? The right lane is free too...

Well i wasn't driving my brother was, but mainly cause the right lane had more water, prolly because no one uses it :lol:

I doesn´t look that they work very good if i look the asphalt and if i look how the crashbarriers are bandy.

The highways construction quality is high enough i think, but yes the maintenance isn't really good.
But whats wrong with the crush barriers?

[radi6404]

The crashbarriers are extremly crooked i think, the crashbarriers of the new bulgarian struma motorway arent crooked, just a few but overall they aren´t, what does it cause they are crooked? I am sorry to say this but i think so, i think so about the slovenian highways, too, German new highways are very well made for example, new Austrian ones do also look very well when new. The asphalt of your motorways does look a bit strange imo, it has too many white points, i don´t know if it is with porpuse since the asphalt on our new motorways looks also similar, it isn´t very black but has many white points even when is new, why?

[ChrisZwolle]

I think the pavement shown in the pics is okay. That A1 can't be that busy. (any figures?)

[pilotos]

Hm i don't see the barriers being crooked, but if u mean the metal barriers, well they don't replace them if they aren't destroyed i guess, also the whole part was completed almost 10 years before so isn't that new, and the asphalt needs repavement for sure in most parts.

As for how busy the motorway is i don't know, but certainly not empty as seen in those pics, i ll search for figures later.

[pilotos]

And an updated map of egnatia odos, showing the progress that i just noticed, its for April 2007:
http://www.egnatia.gr/flash/images/progressmap/PS_APRIL_2007_ENG.jpg

[radi6404]

Hm i don't see the barriers being crooked, but if u mean the metal barriers, well they don't replace them if they aren't destroyed i guess, also the whole part was completed almost 10 years before so isn't that new, and the asphalt needs repavement for sure in most parts.

As for how busy the motorway is i don't know, but certainly not empty as seen in those pics, i ll search for figures later.

yeah i meant the Metal barriers, i must say that i prefer concrete barrier isntead of old metal barriers but if metalbarriers are new or well made i prefer metal barriers.

[Nik the Greek]

^ Former republic of Yugoslavia, someone stayed in the beginning of the nineties.. Anyway, interesting map!

Hello Verso..

I made this Map.Sorry
The next time i take a new Map with the right Name of the Neighbour-Countries.:) :) :)

[SouthernEuropean]

Great news....a totally new highway is going to be built in the next few years,connecting East and West Greece...total km:175.It's going to be a 6 lane highway and it's of major importance for Central Greece.:)

[ChrisZwolle]

And where would that be build? Don't you mean the A2 Igoumenitsa - Thessaloniki - Turkey?

[SouthernEuropean]

i mean E65 it's a totally new highway connecting Lamia with Grevena..Pathe meeting Egnatia..

[ChrisZwolle]

Ah, but that looks more like a north-south axe to me ;)

But great. I think travelling in Greece's interior takes a lot of time, despite the lack of big cities.

[SouthernEuropean]

There are going to be many benefits from the construction of this road..and it's kind of North West South East highway i think...if you could understand Greek i would suggest you follow the updates-debate here :[people have various opinions and thoughts about the new highway]:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=327086&page=13

[pilotos]

Here is a map of the ? (i dont know whats its name is, i just know that its part of the E-65 corridor):
http://www.minenv.gr/download/2006-05-30.map.E65.pdf

[SouthernEuropean]

thanks for the map ..interesting..

[keber]

Great news....a totally new highway is going to be built in the next few years,connecting East and West Greece...total km:175.It's going to be a 6 lane highway and it's of major importance for Central Greece.:)

6 lanes? Why would you built completely new highway 6-laned? Especially when some much more important highways in Greece are still 2-laned?

[ChrisZwolle]

Maybe because the new motorway is going through mountainous terrain, and trucks can use one lane for slow climbs. If that happens all the time, it could be useful to build 2x3 lanes at once, instead of constant changing from 2 tot 3 lanes.

[SouthernEuropean]

i think Chris is right,because i heard that this highway is going to be used as well by trucks exporting and importing from the North or those coming from the port of Igoumenitsa etc..that's good for the other highway,Thessaloniki to Athens as it will reduce the number of trucks

[pilotos]

Some details about the motorway, which is of course going to be a tollroad, the motorway will be constructed by the "Hellenic autopistas" consortium, which is made by the spanish companies CINTRA and DRAGADOS and the greek ΓΕΚ and ΤΕΡΝΑ, and it will be a private motorway for 30 years.
The total cost of the 175km new motorway and the reconstruction of 57 km that belongs to the A1 motorway, will be 1,6 bln Euro.

Technical data:

3 traffic lanes per direction.
23 junctions.
6 rest areas(with shops, gasoline stations restaurants etc. ).
6 maintenance centers.
20 km length tunnels.
620 m Cut & cover tunnels.
8.8 km length bridges.

And the announcement from the cintra company web site:

Cintra selected as provisional contractor to build and operate its second toll road in Greece

05/02/2007 – The 231 km Central Greece Motorway E-65 includes a segment running north-west/south-east through central Greece and a segment of the Patra-Athens-Thessaloniki (PATHE) toll road
The project will cost an estimated 1.5 billion euro

The road concession runs for 30 years

The consortium is short-listed for a third project and has bid for a fourth concession; together, those two projects represent a total investment of close to 3 billion euro

Madrid, 5 February 2007. Cintra, a toll-road and car-park company, has been selected by the Greek Government as provisional contractor to build, finance, operate, maintain and exploit the Central Greece Motorway (E65). The project is estimated to cost about 1.5 billion euro and the concession will run for 30 years.

This will be Cintra's second toll road in Greece, where it has already bid for a third project and is short-listed for a fourth (those two projects represent a projected investment of close to 3 billion euro). In this project, Cintra is the leader (33.34%) of a consortium with ACS and Greek construction company GEK (33.33% each); Cintra will nominate the concession company's General Manager.

The road measures 231 km in total and comprises two sections:

- the Central Greece segment, to built entirely by the consortium, measures 174 km and runs north-west/south-east through central Greece, connecting the city of Egnatia to the PATHE (Patra-Athens-Thessaloniki) toll road.

- the other segment, which measures 57 km., will be built by the Greek government and transferred to the concession company

The newly-built road will come into service in approximately 66 months. The road is expected to become operational by the end of 2009, when part of the road to be built by the Government will be transferred to the concession company. The final award and signature of the concession contract are subject to government approval of all the documentation as well as ratification by the Greek parliament. The European Commission must also approve the subsidy for the project.

[ChrisZwolle]

wow 1,6 bln Euro, that's a good buy. Was the asphalt for sale? :lol:

[pilotos]

Hm i don't know if that is supposed to be cheap, is it?
And have in mind that most of the road is passing through a plain, and only a small part will pass through mountains.

And btw the 1.6bln is actually only about the 175 km, the other 57 will cost an additional 300mln.

[ChrisZwolle]

1,6 bln for 175km is still extremely cheap, if you see that they spend that amount of money for one 4km tunnel alone here, and what do you think of a motorway here that is supposed to be build for 100mln per kilometer? (through flatter than flat landscape).

[pilotos]

Hm that it probably has golden crash barriers :lol:

[Tom 958]

Here is a map of the ? (i dont know whats its name is, i just know that its part of the E-65 corridor):
http://www.minenv.gr/download/2006-05-30.map.E65.pdf

On to Tirane! :banana:

[pilotos]

Hm the grey line that in ends on isn't the borders, but the A2 motorway, so not really to tirane.

[Merz Ivan]

If you go from the interchange A2/A7 to the northeast with the A7 (Grevena), you can take another motorway under construction from Siatista through Kastoria and get to the albanian border. To Tirana there are than only about 150 km (Korca, Ohrid lake, Librazhd, Elbasan). It's the paneuropean corridor 8.

[pilotos]

Ye sure you can, a bit closer than using the A1 and the A2, now u ll use this one and the A2 and you ll get there faster :)

[Giorgio]

Amazing pics guys!
I loved the egnatia construction ones.

[Tom 958]

Come on, guys. Think big. Athens to Tirane, then to Podgorica, then Dubrovnic and Split, then it's motorway to Paris or whatever. Ought to be done about the time wheeled transport becomes obsolete except in Albania. :nuts:

[Merz Ivan]

Do you mean this one?
http://www.geocities.com/nikola-jelovac/Adriatic-ionian-Highway.jpg

[Angelos]

i guess yes.

[Merz Ivan]

Sorry if I post this here, but this is the continuation of my last post.
The transportation ministers of Bosnia (there is a small 30 km stretch between Croatia and Montenegro that goes through Bosnia, see the map) and Montenegro met in Podgorica, Montenegro on the 5th of June. The agreed that the continuation of the Adriatic-ionian Motorway construction and its completion are a common interest and a priority for Croatia, Montenegro and Bosnia. As known, the Croatian part of the motorway will reach the port of Ploce at the end of 2008. The expert groups of the both countries are going to establish the contact points in the next 20-25 days (end of June), which is a necessity in order to make the feasibility study possible. http://www.pobjeda.cg.yu/naslovna.phtml?...vview&id=119565 (http://www.pobjeda.cg.yu/naslovna.phtml?akcija=advview&id=119565)
Minister Lompar of Montenegro will pay a visit to his Albanian collegue soon. They should discuss the line of the Adriatic-ionian Motorway. The tender for the feasibility study in Montenegro is going on till the 22nd of June. The best offer will be chosen till the 12th July. The study should be finished at the latest in January 2008.
http://www.bildercache.de/bild/20061027-214631-7.jpg

[Giorgio]

When will the Ionian-Adriatic be complete then?

[Giorgio]

Egnatia
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/414920649_a6e3491033_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/414920418_726d2f658e_b.jpg

[Rato Tvrdic]

;14053169']When will the Ionian-Adriatic be complete then?
I guess Croatia could complete its stretches in 2010, only the Peljesac bridge should be built till 2011.
Montenegro has to build 110 km. They could start in 2009 and it could last 2-3 years.
Albania is building all the stretches, but at least some parts will not be build as a motorway (from Fier to the Greek border). It could be upgraded when the traffic increases.
A small problem could be Bosnia, which should build a small 30 km stretch between Dubrovnik and Montenegro. I think Croatia or Montenegro and some investors can help, if Bosnia is willing to give a concession.

[radi6404]

Few pics i took recently while heading to the university:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/504758552_47726b8073_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/504758546_d62457cb24_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/200/504758540_4ff7af616a_b.jpg



This one looks great, i like the crashbarriers, so should crashbarriers look, especially on pic 3 where some very shiny ones start and not like in Germany, Poland and Croatia with new crashbarriers that look like old Iron crashbarriers. Go greece!

I like it that in the Balkans the people are used to some old bumpy roads which are anything but beautiful, they have potholes and it is dangerous to travel on them, when you don´t care you drive in big holes and it shakes your car quite a lot but then of a sudden extremly new shiny impressive motorways pup up and it is something extremly different,don´t know how others feel but i feel very hpappy when i see this, you imediatelly think you are somewhere in western europe in a rich country. This is really a contrast and it is great. I find that in the Balkan countries such new roads or rails whatever look even better because they are very stressed, you travel on the new roads which look great and see for example dirty gipsie gethos, like in Belgrade or Sofia and feel somehow very srange.

[radi6404]

No comment to this amazing motorway

[Giorgio]

don´t know how others feel but i feel very hpappy when i see this, you imediatelly think you are somewhere in western europe in a rich country.

Well this thread is about a rich Western European country!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Western_Europe_map.png
Greece Nominal GDP per Capita: $30,603
:banana:

Seriously though, I too love these roads poping up around the Balkans. Very nice indeed.

[radi6404]

No it´s not.

[KIWIKAAS]

^^
Yes it is. From the list of countries based on GDP PPP per capita.

26 Spain 27,522 2005
27 Greece 25,975 2005
28 New Zealand 25,531 2005

64 Romania 9,869 2005
65 Bulgaria 9,799 2005
66 Kazakhstan 9,294 2004

Ranking HDI (standard of living)

23. Israel 0.927 ()
24. Greece 0.921 ()
25. Singapore 0.916

53 Mexico 0.821 (0)
54 Bulgaria 0.816 (+1)
55 Tonga 0.815 (-1)

[Giorgio]

Greek Highways are the best in the Balkans and IMO among the best in Europe!...heres some more pictures from pilotos.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/516699317_b926c7c3f5_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/225/516699325_4074042e9f_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/497866686_255dd7dd7d_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/512476030_dff2fdcf42_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/238/516602900_15fe167a30_b.jpg

Rion-Antirio Bridge, as the longest cable-stayed bridge in the world...it is the jewel of the great Greek road network!:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/127485768_e5014d0bbc_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/218038296_316e4caf45_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/491630173_69f40914bb_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/209932115_13d0d1a9e2_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/14/18327220_376e54baa5_b.jpg

[radi6404]

^^ As if the new Bulgarian motorways aren´t as good.

[Giorgio]

^^ As if the new Bulgarian motorways aren´t as good.

Bulgaria has some great stretches.

Posted by Almopos,

This thread has been inactive far to long.

Some construction pictures of the Egnatia Odos between Ioannina and Metsovo (from Stadia.gr member TasosGR)

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/IMG_4786.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/IMG_4787.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/IMG_4784.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/IMG_4783.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/IMG_4782.jpg

PATHE construction pics near Kammena Vourla (from Stadia.gr member starlet).

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/starletara/petalo%20maliakou/KamenaVourla1Jun07.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/starletara/petalo%20maliakou/KamenaVourla2Jun07.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/starletara/petalo%20maliakou/KamenaVourla3Jun07.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/starletara/petalo%20maliakou/KamenaVourla4Jun07.jpg

Some more construction pictures from our friends at stadia.gr

Egnatia Odos near Grevena (pictures from stadia member superas)

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2590/img2448smalljr1.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4692/img2456msmallls1.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9262/img2463smallfg9.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3484/img2536smallea4.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6456/img2547smallxy0.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1208/img2508smallxm9.jpg

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9858/img2540smallca1.jpg

[GrigorisSokratis]

http://www.geocities.com/nikola-jelovac/Adriatic-ionian-Highway.jpg

Has anyone checked this map???!!!! is completely erroneous, those latitudes are all bended!!!

In that map all the eastern part of Europe is pushed southward while the western northward.

For example Greece Italy and Spain share common latitudes in real life while in this map they don't as in real life.

Take for example Madrid that in this map is more to the north than Rome or Thessaloniki btw it shares latitude with Sofia :lol:

Not to mention that Galicia shares latitudes with....Switzerland and Wien!!!!!!

:lol: :cheers: cheers to the person who made this funny map!

[Giorgio]

I don't see it.

[Almopos]

Some pictures of the stretches of the Egnatia Odos highway that were recently opened to traffic. Pictures are from stadia.gr member CORFU



Egnatia odos (Volvi lake near Thessaloniki)

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E045.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E048.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E049.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E050.jpg

Egnatia odos (Grevena - Venetikos)

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E061.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E063.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E064.jpg

[Almopos]

More pictures

Some pictures of the Siatista interchange

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E057.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E058.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E060.jpg


Some Egnatia Odos construction pictures (Western-Macedonia and Epirus) taken last Saterday.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E076.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E099.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E091.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E100.jpg

[radi6404]

Almopos it looks beautiful, new motorways look always so imsame, but when they get older they become normal.

[x-type]

Egnatia Odos will allways look impressive because of unusual quantity and intensity of objects. i allready have it allmost in same rang as italian A10

[pilotos]

Some photos of the newly opened section of the PATHE motorway in maliakos gulf, all the photos were taken and posted in stadia.gr from the member stavros86, so thanks to him i can post the pics here :

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/k4wjzngme4g1u1ynz4mn.jpg

The first tunnel of the section (4 in total):
http://www.imageshack.gr/images/zzwnqikdz5jmlonu5mnw.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/jiyjm3moyhzxmtnym5rg.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/4yminfwknzzndl1zwqzm.jpg

After the 1st tunnel:
http://www.imageshack.gr/images/kwez4i2fnizodjzniyhw.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/cbukn1ymtt2dzwkjjzmk.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/wg2imiznz0xnmc5zq2dn.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/mzgmduzyzi5glnnjmmw1.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/zyy1mwgzymctu1d1zymm.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/wykzdorwmzy2yyldn3mm.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/z5dzdwzuotqe1k5mo2kt.jpg

The second tunnel:
http://www.imageshack.gr/images/2thjzfd4mycrtm3aijzy.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/yny2lmqfujywj3dzymmn.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/teojfz3tkynxyzrkwzjk.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/nmydherwhkdjkxzbdjmy.jpg


http://www.imageshack.gr/images/gyzzqzmdt3yccynz5i4n.jpg

The third tunnel:
http://www.imageshack.gr/images/nrzj4mf5tmaimmdqjkkm.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/2ywmiddzjjawgmm2numx.jpg

The forth tunnel (C&C):
http://www.imageshack.gr/images/mndmktjfwlhu1dmjzojh.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/aizd2ftyylzmlwjzuyz4.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/tmmgdtzaq5ondn4qvxmy.jpg

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/nmykzgfwyz5jtkwmtmnh.jpg


http://www.imageshack.gr/images/y3jotgxmyjdzozigyzjy.jpg

The sections that were given for use have a length of 20,4 km, and the whole section will be completed in October, according to the ministry of public works.

[radi6404]

these motorways are just beautiful, thy are fucking awesome, they can be compared with struma motorway and probably are even better,I would love to drive on these motorways.

[wyqtor]

I agree with Radi and also I must add that these are the best lit tunnels I have ever seen!

But:

http://www.imageshack.gr/images/2ywmiddzjjawgmm2numx.jpg

^^ Isn't this dangerous? That lane coming from the right just merges into the motorway, without any possibility to accelerate!

[radi6404]

I even ust say that these motorways don´t look like normal roads and motorways, they look like nextgeneration monorail rails on Mars or some toher planet, I have never seen such motorways, really.

[pilotos]

Isn't this dangerous? That lane coming from the right just merges into the motorway, without any possibility to accelerate!

Yes you are right, i just guess that it isn't an entrance, i have no idea what it is though.

Btw as you can obviously notice, even those sections are not completely finished, they need to plant trees and i am quite sure that the parallel roads and entrances aren't finished yet, they actually opened it a few months before they should, due to the elections.

[keber]

^^ Isn't this dangerous? That lane coming from the right just merges into the motorway, without any possibility to accelerate!
This is only emergency niche before tunnel. Look at other pictures of tunnel entrances.

[x-type]

the motorway looks great as most of greek new ones! but inside the tunnels i miss more LED lights and signs, especially for emergency!

[Almopos]

Some construction pictures of the A-12/E-79 Serres-Promachones (Greek-Bulgarian border) motorway. Pictures are from stadia.gr member Alter100.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA032.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA031.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA018.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA024.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA019.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA014.jpg

[wyqtor]

^^ From those pictures above it looks like the (in)famous Struma Motorway will be getting a worthy follow-up after the border! :cheers: :banana:

[Almopos]

More construction pictures of the Egnatia highway from stadia.gr member Corfu (he went on a guided tour with one of the engineers of Egnatia Odos S.A.)

Paramithia bridge near Ioannina

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07001.jpg

Toll booth under construction near Ioannina

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07003.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07005.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07006.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07162.jpg

The Arachtos bridge

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07158.jpg

The metsovitiko bridge

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07155.jpg

Tunnel at Agios Nikolaos

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07031.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07058.jpg

Another bridge

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07065.jpg

And another one

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07096.jpg

Tunnel at Agia Paraskevi

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07099.jpg

More bridges

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07147.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07120.jpg

Stretch of highway between Grevena and Kipourio

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/corfu_album/E10-07151.jpg

[radi6404]

the motorway looks great as most of greek new ones! but inside the tunnels i miss more LED lights and signs, especially for emergency!

you have always something to complain about.

[Verso]

^ You're the one to say that.


Btw, how many of you people are interested in photos of roads under construction? Cause I'm not. :D Of course you have all the right to post such photos, I'm just asking. ;)

[radi6404]

^ You're the one to say that.


Btw, how many of you people are interested in photos of roads under construction? Cause I'm not. :D Of course you have all the right to post such photos, I'm just asking. ;)

Yes, but I also diss my countries roads, read in the eastern european section and also in the Bulgarian motorways section that I do complain about my roads too, I never heard him saying anything against Croatian roads, he´s just prising them.

[Almopos]

Btw, how many of you people are interested in photos of roads under construction?

I do! That's why I post them in this thread and like to look at them in other threads. If you don't like them don't look at them.

Here are some pictures of stretches of the Egnatia highway that have been completed specially for you.

Asprovalta - Strimona (pictures taken by stadia.gr member Mozart)

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/46_Tmima_Asprovaltas_Strimona.jpg?t=1192211801

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/47_Tmima_Asprovaltas_Strimona.jpg?t=1192212238

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/45_Tmima_Asprovaltas_Strimona.jpg?t=1192212282

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/44_Tmima_Asprovaltas_Strimona.jpg?t=1192212307

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/41_Tmima_Asprovaltas_Strimona.jpg?t=1192212338

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/40_Tmima_Asprovaltas_Strimona.jpg?t=1192212360

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/36_AK_Asprovaltas.jpg?t=1192212400

[Almopos]

Egnatia highway (Rentina - Asprovalta)

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/34_Tmima_Rentinas_Asprovaltas_sirag.jpg?

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/33_Tmima_Rentinas_Asprovaltas.jpg?

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/32_Tmima_Rentinas_Asprovaltas.jpg?

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/30_Tmima_Rentinas_Asprovaltas.jpg?t=1192212693

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/Amozart/31_Tmima_Rentinas_Asprovaltas.jpg?

Pictures taken by stadia.gr member Mozart

[Verso]

If you don't like them don't look at them.OMG, I know that, I was just asking. ;) And nice photos. :cheers:

[x-type]

Yes, but I also diss my countries roads, read in the eastern european section and also in the Bulgarian motorways section that I do complain about my roads too, I never heard him saying anything against Croatian roads, he´s just prising them.

you didn't read enough carefully. i almost never talk superb things about croatian motorways, i leave to other forumers to discuss about them. i like to hear other's opinion, i'm not interesting into my opinion.

Greece has great motorways, full of really interesting objects and that's what i really prize a lot. and Greeks are not showing us boring pics of straight motorways without objects. when they come nearly to end with their network, i'll be completely amazed. and allready now i can say just WOW because other things leave me speechless considering about greek motorways.

[mitasis]

Nice pics! Egnatia odos will be one of the best European highways when it is finished!

[ovem]

Nice pics! Egnatia odos will be one of the best European highways when it is finished! that's not far away...

[Angelos]

yep,its almost finished

[radi6404]

you didn't read enough carefully. i almost never talk superb things about croatian motorways, i leave to other forumers to discuss about them. i like to hear other's opinion, i'm not interesting into my opinion.

Greece has great motorways, full of really interesting objects and that's what i really prize a lot. and Greeks are not showing us boring pics of straight motorways without objects. when they come nearly to end with their network, i'll be completely amazed. and allready now i can say just WOW because other things leave me speechless considering about greek motorways.

I know your stupid sarcasm and the motorway you say is straight has interesting things like changing 300 m evelation many bridges and so on.

[ea1969]

Greece has constructed a lot of motorways and other major roads in the last few years, but the situation in road numbering seems at least ridiculous. National roads have been numbered in 1963; of course there are hundreds of kilometres constructed since then. These new roads have been classified as national roads but it seems they are still unumbered. The 1963 system had left quite a significant amount of numbers unused, probably reserved for future use (ie. 10, 11, 23, 32, 41 etc.), but nothing was done since then.

When motorways were constructed, it was decided to use the German shield on the signs in order to indicate the motorway number. In general motorways took the number of the national road they have replaced or bypassed. The sole exception is Attiki Odos which has been numbered A6 and its branches which have been numbered foolowing a "tree system" (A61, A62 etc.). In that case, somebody has also decided to use a 3-digit number (A642), without any need for it.

The shields on the signs have followed the German or Swiss system, without indicating the prefix A in front of the number, because motorways are a distinctive class of roads. Therefore all shields on signs on the PATHE (Athens - Evzonoi / A1) show 1 or on Attiki Odos (A6) show 6. However, on Egnatia Odos the prefix A is shown on all signs. (You may see the photogarphs of Egnatia Odos in this forum). [By the way it was decided to use capital letters on all motorway signs in order to be better visible on high speeds, but on Egnatia lately they started using signs with small letters].

A problem also occurs on the PATHE section to Korinthos. Some signs show 8, while some others show 8A (surely they have used the number of the "new national road" replaced by the motorway - National Road 8 refers to the "old national road). There was also a case at the Aspropyrgos exit - it may still be there - where signs show(ed) E8 (!), a European road number in nothern Finland.

Attiki Odos on the other hand uses along with (A)6 the European number E94. This may be OK for the section Elefsina - Metamorfosi if someone considers that this stretch has replaced the west entrance to Athens via Athinon Avenue. But it is 100% wrong to extend E94 further to the east up to the Athens Int'l Airport Interchange.

I think it is time to create a comprehensive system that will be used on signs as well. All European countries, including Albania, Iceland or even the Faroe Islands show road numbers on signs; Greece uses them only in motorways and in a few other cases. The funny stituation is also reflected to road map publishers, where they do not know what to use and there are a lot of differencies between maps, while others like Michelin shows only European numbers.

[ChrisZwolle]

I found Greek highway numbering quite confusing indeed.

Maybe it's an idea to number motorways with an A-number, and ordinary (national) highways with a N-number, or the Greek equivalent of it.

I don't like E-numbering as the main numbering scheme. There are always motorways who don't have an E-number, so you still get 2 kinds of numbers for the same type of road. They made that mistake in Belgium, and the Scandinavian countries. The prefix should immediatly tell what kind of road you are driving (on) to.

[radi6404]

I found Greek highway numbering quite confusing indeed.

Maybe it's an idea to number motorways with an A-number, and ordinary (national) highways with a N-number, or the Greek equivalent of it.

I don't like E-numbering as the main numbering scheme. There are always motorways who don't have an E-number, so you still get 2 kinds of numbers for the same type of road. They made that mistake in Belgium, and the Scandinavian countries. The prefix should immediatly tell what kind of road you are driving (on) to.

i like E numbering of nationalroads, in ermany for example they don´t E-number any road, jsut their own numbering sheme, here in bulgaria they just use E-nmbers. you greek guys have the same problem then we, we don´t number second and thirdclass roads, only main national and ransitroads.

[RawLee]

i like E numbering of nationalroads, in ermany for example they don´t E-number any road, jsut their own numbering sheme, here in bulgaria they just use E-nmbers. you greek guys have the same problem then we, we don´t number second and thirdclass roads, only main national and ransitroads.

^^I suppose E-numbers are good for international traffic,especially for trucks,because they dont really need to have a local,up-to-date map,because the E-road's destinations dont change...but if a country only uses E-numbers,thats not good,because it confuses locals. This is just my opinion,and thats what we use(both E and local numbers).

[x-type]

^^I suppose E-numbers are good for international traffic,especially for trucks,because they dont really need to have a local,up-to-date map,because the E-road's destinations dont change...but if a country only uses E-numbers,thats not good,because it confuses locals. This is just my opinion,and thats what we use(both E and local numbers).

i agree, although E-numbers are becoming more formality. why? take example that you travel from Sweden to Greece. you're definitely not going to use E65 for that, although it connects Sweden and Greece. i only find Ex5 and Ex0 usefull because at Ex5 you know that you're traveling in S-N direction, and Ex0 E-W.

btw, i don't know why are we discussing it here while Greece (and mentioned Bulgaria) have A numbers for motorways and other for other roads. i don't like scandinavian countries' numbering, they use pure E numbers at motorways. also, i'm not too happy when A road follows same named N road (Poland, Hungary), but that's not too large problem.

Radi: i don't understand what is problem now

[ea1969]

Dear All. Greece uses E-numbers in a much more comprehensive way than national numbering - with the sole exception of the E94 subject mentioned on my previous message. On the other hand in a lot of cases E-roads follow very illogical routes and cannot be used for long trips, although their purpose should have been to be used for long trips!

However, the main problem in the Greek road numbering is not only the fact that it is not fully updated, but also that the companies which have built some of the new roads (ie. Egnatia Odos SA, Attiki Odos SA etc.) are also responsible for the road signs and seem to put on them whatever they like. I have seen a photo on a Dutch forum with a Greek sign indicating European Road E-000!

[radi6404]

A greek company builds parts of a national road Simitli gotce Delchev, the whole distance of the road, including parts which are being build by a different company is 60/70 km, do the Greek companies a good job, do they make smooth roads, would like it if they´d look as stumming as the motorways shown in this thread, jsut twolamed.

[ea1969]

With reference to the message of the friend from Bulgaria: The standard of work will be certainly high. It depends from the Bulgarian specifications if they will build a 4- or 6-lane motorway. If the same company gets also the right to maintain the road, the Bulgarian authorities will need to pay close attention to the standards of maintainance. But in any case, please don't let the Greek company sign the motorway!

[Rato Tvrdic]

Rio-Antirio gets a Croatian rivalry:
http://www.jutarnji.hr/ephresources/images/2007/10/23/most.wide.jpg
The construction started today! It will last 4 years.
Total cost: €260 million
Length: 2380m
Navigational clearance: 55m
Width: 21,5m
Main span: 568m (second cable-stayed in Europe after the Normandie bridge over Loire)

Opening Date: June 2011

[pilotos]

Ah alright, it is a cool bridge nonetheless but keep in mind that the rio antirio (Charilaos trikoupis bridge) is not only unique because of the largest combined span in the world as a cable stayed bridge, but also because of the way it was constructed and the difficulties that a bridge in such a place can face.

Also this bridge has only one span which is 568 m, while rio has 4 spans which combined have length of 2,252 meters, and that makes the bridge the biggest cable stayed in the world, ad for the biggest single span its 560 meters, but it wasn't the biggest before even, a bridge in japan holds that record.

[Rato Tvrdic]

Ah alright, it is a cool bridge nonetheless but keep in mind that the rio antirio (Charilaos trikoupis bridge) is not only unique because of the largest combined span in the world as a cable stayed bridge, but also because of the way it was constructed and the difficulties that a bridge in such a place can face.

Also this bridge has only one span which is 568 m, while rio has 4 spans which combined have length of 2,252 meters, and that makes the bridge the biggest cable stayed in the world, ad for the biggest single span its 560 meters, but it wasn't the biggest before even, a bridge in japan holds that record.
There are 3 spans on the Rio Antirio bridge, and they combined are 1680m, the rest are trestles. But, what counts technically is the longest span.

[pilotos]

^^
Nop it actually has five spans, the length of the cable stayed deck is as i said 2.252 meters, the whole bridge is 2,880 meters.

Take a look :

http://www.gefyra.gr/Greek/Technique/images_02/RioAntirio2.gif

[x-type]

^^
Nop it actually has five spans, the length of the cable stayed deck is as i said 2.252 meters, the whole bridge is 2,880 meters.

span is a part of the bridge between two pylons ;)

btw, we must appreciate both, the largest span and the largest bridge itself and we cannot say that one category of those two is more important

[pilotos]

Yes i know what a span is, but i cant say it has 3 plus 2 half spans :lol:

[KONSTANTINOUPOLIS]

The Corinthos Canal (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=16163408#post16163408)

[Patrick]

EDIT: I'll search for it tomorrow again ;)

[Verso]

^^ Thanks for the invisible picture. :D

[Patrick]

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/cat/9138/display/8609759

where is this?

[pilotos]

"Autobahn nach Alexandroupoli GR"

Probably egnatia(A-2), seems like the motorway stops there, the picture should be old though, cause there isn't any parts u/c in or near Alexandroupoli.

[x-type]

there is also mentioned island Thassos, so it's probably somewhere near Kavala or Nea Kerdilia, maybe even Xanthi

[pilotos]

Yes indeed the motorway is u/c near xanthi, and kavala.

Btw this (http://www.egnatia.gr/files/images/proodos.jpg) is the latest map of Egnatia motorway work progress.

[Rato Tvrdic]

Yes indeed the motorway is u/c near xanthi, and kavala.

Btw this (http://www.egnatia.gr/files/images/proodos.jpg) is the latest map of Egnatia motorway work progress.

I've seen the km distances between cities. What does "operational Egnatia" mean? Some temporary road parallel to the motorway?

[radi6404]

Some construction pictures of the A-12/E-79 Serres-Promachones (Greek-Bulgarian border) motorway. Pictures are from stadia.gr member Alter100.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA032.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA031.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA018.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA024.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA019.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z312/alter100/EGNATIA014.jpg

On our side construction hasn´t been started, I have no idea when it will, things stand bad unfortunately.

[Rato Tvrdic]

Excellent job Greece!
http://files.homepagemodules.de/b211118/f11734815t508006p7497992n1.jpg

[ea1969]

Although nobody could be certain as far as Greek road numbering is concerned, I have to make the following remarks:

The motorway shown as A3 may be signed as A5 north of the A8, while the existing section of the southern part (the Patra Ring Road) has been already signed as A9, so the same may happen to the whole southern part. The motorway shown as A5 may have received the number A7, while the project shown as A51 towards Sparti has not got an official number yet (it may get A39).

All the remarks were made with the logic to give to motorways a number that corresponds to the national road it replaces or bypasses (of course Attiki Odos numbered as A6 and its branches do not follow this rule), but I have mentioned to a previous message the whole situation with road numbering in Greece is a total mess.

[Nik the Greek]

Hello ea1969.

I made this Map.
And i look on Automobil-Maps and i see the Nr. of Motorways.
But the Greek-Transport of Ministry give other Numbers for the Motorways.
Maybe my Nr.A-3 when the motorway be ready the Ministry of Transport give the Number A-5 on for all the ohters Motorways on my Map, maybe are other Numbers,except the A-1,A-2,A-6 and A-8.
I think all the greek nationalroads recontsruction to Motorways the get this Numbers.
Patras-Pyrgos have the Nr.9 after the was a Motorway have the Number A-9.

[ea1969]

Dear Nik

Even international map publishers are confused too. Hallwag, Marco Polo & Euromaps used to show the road numbers in a way similar to your map, although in the last edition Hallwag & Euromaps changed them a bit. Michelin shows only European numbers in its European Atlas, while in the 2007 edition of the separate map for Greece uses A5 for Ionia Odos north from Rio, A9 for the section south of Patra & A7 for the Korinthos - Kalamata one.

Other publishers are also confused and Greek publishers generally avoid to show road numbers at all.

The excellent site www.motorways-exitlists.com tries to fix things a bit but I am not sure if they are correct too (they have also named the Thessaloniki Promahonas bit as A12, the Velestino - Volos as A30 etc.). In any case it would be interesting to have a look at this site and let's hope that the Ministry of Public Works (YPEHODE) finally publishes an updated list other than the National Roads List of 1963.

In any case very nice map.

[Nik the Greek]

Hello.
Thank you for this Information about the Numbers of Motorways/Nationalroad in Greece.
But on my Map the Ringroad of Agrinio(Ionia-Odos) have the Nr.3 in green colour on Motorway (The Map Shell Europa 2007/2008).
And here a second problem with the right numbers on greece Motorway-Plate
I think the really right correct traffic plate is on Egnatia A-2.
Oll the roads cross A-2,the have the right traffic plate with the numbers of the Roads.
Look here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikos974/1813695877/
Interchange Lagadas,to Kilkis is the Number 65 with Blue colour and to Serres the Nr.12 on blue colour,now Peoples can understand this are Roads ore Nationalroads.
But on other motorways in Greece the A-1 cross other Roads the have the numbers in Green Colour.On Interchange A-1 Larrisa 4,Trikala,Karditsa the have the Nr.6 on green colour,so i inderstand when i read this Plate i think this is a Motorway to this direction,
but the Attiki-Odos-Motorway have too the Number 6!!!!
And this site motorways-exitlists.com this is not really right for Greece motorways.
What the number have Kozani-Ptelomaida? this is a Motorway.
I hope you understand me, whit my opinion about the numbers from Greece Motorways!
I think i must go to Work on Ministry of Public Works (YPEHODE) to give the right numbers of Roads,Nationalroads and Motorways.Ha,ha,ha

I wish you happy new Year ea1969.

[ea1969]

Dear Nik

A happy new year to you and all at this forum.

In reference to your last message I have to agree with you. As shown on the image of your link & everywhere at Egnatia Odos they put the letter A in front of the motorway number (signed as A2). It is the practice followed in Croatia, Slovenia, Italy, France, the Benelux countries, Spain etc. On all other Greek motorways, they do not put the letter A in front of the number as in Germany or Switzerland. I do not know why is that.

On the other hand it seems that Egnatia Odos SA have their own ideas of signing their magnificent motorway. They have started using small letters on the direction signs in some new sections and in some cases they show some national road number in places that are not correct (ie. they show National Road 20 at the Venetikos exit, while road 20 is far to the north - Kozani - Ioannina via Konitsa or National Road 15 on the Profitis junction near Thessaloniki, while road 15 runs from Kalampaka to Kastoria and Prepses)!

On the Larisa case, it is sure one of the lots of mistakes. Number 6 should be indicated in blue, not in green. I do not know if they transform the Larisa - Trikala road to a motorway, which number they will give it as 6 has been given to Attiki Odos.

The Kozani - Ptolemaida road has motorway characteristics but I think it has not been considered to be a motorway as far as YPEHODE is concerned - it is still signed with blue signs.

The most funny thing in Greek road numbering however can be seen travelling from Athens to Patra. There were - I hope they have removed them - signs at Aspropyrgos showing the motorway as E8 (!!!), then you see motorway number shields as 8 and 8A along the exits up to Korinthos, at the interchange with Attiki Odos signs show the motorway as 8/E65 (E65 is only the bit from Rio to Korinthos as then the route goes towards Tripoli and Kalamata), in Rio you see E65 in blue (all European road shileds - not the signs only the shileds - must be in green and finally travelling the Patra Ring Road all westbound signs show 9/E55 (correctly) all eastbound signs 8/E65! The last is probably due to the fact 9/E55 after some kilometres the Ring Road merges to motorway 8 - but up to Rio it is still 8/E55).

This is Greece!

[lpioe]

Has anyone some good shots of the ringroad in Athens (Attiki Odos)?
It looks like a very nice motorway on Google Earth with a few intersting interchanges.
And the suburban railway runs in the middle of the two carriageways for about 50km.

[pilotos]

There you go, some pictures of "Attiki odos" from flickr.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/2000235700_56ac8131ef_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2168/2000235652_07c29a695f_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2154/2000235732_8ac899dc00_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1422/552242519_582081d629_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1031/548778805_7654ab3889_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1011/548775559_d844a9db0f_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1061/548705418_7b0bbe6945_b.jpg

[lpioe]

That was fast! Thanks a lot :okay:

Do all the railway stations have the same design on this route or are there variations?

[KONSTANTINOUPOLIS]

Hi lpioe, this is the Athens ring-road "Αττικη Οδός" - "Attiki Odos".
The pics are from various sources and some of them a little bit old and unfortunately i don't remember photographers 's names.Enjoy.

http://media.feed.gr/filesystem/images/20070402/engine/pegasus_LARGE_t_1561_39147_type11431.jpg

http://media.feed.gr/filesystem/images/20070402/engine/pegasus_LARGE_t_1561_39146_type11431.jpg

http://media.feed.gr/filesystem/images/20070411/engine/pegasus_LARGE_t_1561_39143_type11431.jpg

http://media.feed.gr/filesystem/images/20070404/engine/pegasus_LARGE_t_1561_39142_type11431.jpg

http://media.feed.gr/filesystem/images/20070402/engine/pegasus_LARGE_t_1561_39148_type11431.jpg

http://media.feed.gr/filesystem/images/20070411/engine/pegasus_LARGE_t_1561_39149_type11431.jpg

http://media.feed.gr/filesystem/images/20070404/engine/pegasus_LARGE_t_1561_39150_type11431.jpg

http://media.feed.gr/filesystem/images/20070403/engine/pegasus_LARGE_t_1561_39154_type11431.jpg

http://media.feed.gr/filesystem/images/20070402/engine/pegasus_LARGE_t_1561_39138_type11431.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_4a_K_Katexaki.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_3b_K_Kantzas.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_2g_K_L_Marathonos.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_1f_Siraga_Mauris_Oras.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_1b_K_Magoulas.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_1a_K_Mandras.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_4e_K_Agias_Paraskevis.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_4d_Perifereiaki_Imitou.jpg

http://www.e-go.gr/filesystem/images/20040524/medium/pegasus_m_4c_K_Papagou.jpg

http://www.airphotos.gr/photo/996.jpg

http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/263665

http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/263666

http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/263668

http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/263671

http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/263685

http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/264179

http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/342109

http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/342115

The suburbain train at the airport
http://www.proastiakos.gr/getimage_gal.php?what=photo&table=photos&id=23

and the airport
http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/286320

[porche carrera]

μηπως εχετε περισσοτερες photos για την εγνατια οδο , τον αυτοκινητοδρομο παθε καθως και για τον κλαδο εγνατιας οδου προς ιεροπηγη (καστορια)

[ChrisZwolle]

^^ English please.

[Mateusz]

Oh no, it's reminding me l