Vancouver Skyline

[alexdaytona]

I am looking for the rendering of Vancouver's(Canada's most beautiful city) skyline with everything complete in 2010.
I have never seen a future skyline rendering of Vancouver so if anyone could post some it would be great.
thanks.

[emperorXIV]

i think i saw it in the vancouver photos thread a few months back. saved it to my computer only to have hard drive die a month ago, losing a lot of great stuff.

[mr.x]

These two renderings include the Shangri-la and Twisting Tower into the skyline:
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/Misc/3.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7122/1153rw1.png
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/Misc/webcam02.jpg

[Vancouverite]

Credit to CtrlAltDel for the photos.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1967/vancouverin2010renderrp0.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5238/falsecreek2010renderfv5.jpg

[mr.x]

^ the first one is incorrect. 1133 West Georgia should be right in front of Shangri-la.

[Rhino]

looking good MAN !

[alexdaytona]

wow i am loving this,keep em coming guys.
The skyline of vancouver will be recognized world wide with those changes.
Vancouver skyline is reallly dense and takes up a pretty big area and with a few pinacles like shangri la and ritz carton it will be amazing
The buildings of toronto are taller than vancouver but it sure isn't as dense.
I wonder if vancouver's skyline will be the best in canada.

[Booyashako]

Looks like a mini-Manhattan...err, "Vanhattan".

[mr.x]

Looks like a mini-Manhattan...err, "Vanhattan".

No, we're just Vancouver.

[alexdaytona]

anyone got more?

[WinnipegPatriot]

I love the skyline with some tall towers poking out...that Pyramidical shape...

I just found out that my favorite drinking spot is gone...RIP Crime Lab!!

[vancouverite/to'er]

wow i am loving this,keep em coming guys.
The skyline of vancouver will be recognized world wide with those changes.
Vancouver skyline is reallly dense and takes up a pretty big area and with a few pinacles like shangri la and ritz carton it will be amazing
The buildings of toronto are taller than vancouver but it sure isn't as dense.
I wonder if vancouver's skyline will be the best in canada.

Chances are Toronto City's skyline WILL be as dense in 2011

[willy789]

Chances are Toronto City's skyline WILL be as dense in 2011

Toronto's will be dense
but the fact that Vancouver doesn't have the CN tower and the massive gap between the CN tower and CBD makes a big difference in making it look more dense than TO

and by the way
those are really great renders!
:banana:

[WinnipegPatriot]

^^I have said that for so long; of course, the nasty Toronto forumers don't buy it. The reality is that Toronto has a few tall towers poking out, but too many vacant surface lots (Cityplace is starting to fix that)...Vancouver does appear much denser. The Vancouver skyline from a distance, looks like New York (minus the tall towers)...a wall of skyscrapers. CN Tower hurts the skyline because it is too much of a focal point, making the eye forget about the height of FCP, etc. As well, if the cluster were spread out more, To's skyline would look better.

[alexdaytona]

with the tremendous change that will accour to vancouver's skyline i am surprised that there are a few future skyline renderings of vancouver.
Anybody got more or if not could someone make one,i would appreciate it.

[mr.x]

with the tremendous change that will accour to vancouver's skyline i am surprised that there are a few future skyline renderings of vancouver.
Anybody got more or if not could someone make one,i would appreciate it.

Quite a few have actually been made over the years, but they are lost within many pages and topics of forums.

[alexdaytona]

Quite a few have actually been made over the years, but they are lost within many pages and topics of forums.
ahh..damnit
I wil to make one myself,but don't expect it to be too good lol

[alexdaytona]

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/fxx/?action=view&current=future20render20by20me.jpg
ok here is my rendering(the first skyline rendering i have ever done) but with only shangri-la and ritz,i will add the rest of thge buildings later when i get time.
hope you guys like it.

[mr.x]

wow, that's pretty good. great work!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/fxx/future20render20by20me.jpg?t=1186783283

[officedweller]

I think they are both a bit too tall. Shangri-La is only 1/3 to 1/2 taller than Royal Tower.

[24th]

Does anybody know what's going on with that Jameson House project?

[Vancouverite]

Jameson House is going ahead. The Jolly Taxpayer pub and hotel has been demolished along with the rear of the two heritage buildings. They seem to be doing some micropiling work in advance of excavation and shoring. I think it is safe to say this project is on track now.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7139/jamesonhouseconstructioyj2.jpg
Jameson House demolition progress – August 8th - taken by me with a Panasonic Lumix TZ2

[raggedy13]

Here are a couple more, including an update to that first one mr.x posted (Hotel Georgia tower added).

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/4towers.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/update.jpg

[noob(but not really)]

Harbour Centre's looking kinda pointless now with all the taller buildings going up.

[nikw]

If you go onto google and type Vancouver 3-D in images, you will find a complete 3-D model of Vancouver in 2007 on the Google Earth template. Will be updated in future. Many buildings look too tall. Use the base of the few buildings that are completely coloured as the ground and ignore everything below that. On Google Earth itself there are now 3 downtown buildings in 3-D, and growing. Soon it will be updated to include future buildings. I am working on some myself.

[nikw]

mn

[noob(but not really)]

^^ Do you mean "nm"?

[vancouverite/to'er]

Harbour Centre's looking kinda pointless now with all the taller buildings going up.

Reminds me of whats happened in Shanghai :lol:

[vancouverite/to'er]

^^I have said that for so long; of course, the nasty Toronto forumers don't buy it. The reality is that Toronto has a few tall towers poking out, but too many vacant surface lots (Cityplace is starting to fix that)...Vancouver does appear much denser. The Vancouver skyline from a distance, looks like New York (minus the tall towers)...a wall of skyscrapers. CN Tower hurts the skyline because it is too much of a focal point, making the eye forget about the height of FCP, etc. As well, if the cluster were spread out more, To's skyline would look better.

Toronto is a multi-clustered skyline with the lower city, midtown, Eglinton core. and NYCC. What "cluster" are you referring to?

[dleung]

^ presumably the main one, lol. The same way no one cares about the skylines of Broadway, Metrotown, etc, compared to the downtown peninsula.

People should check out the "future skyline thread" for more renders, there's a lot more out there than u think.

[WinnipegPatriot]

Toronto is a multi-clustered skyline with the lower city, midtown, Eglinton core. and NYCC. What "cluster" are you referring to?

TO has one cluster, and that is easy to identify (look for First Canadian Place). There will be a second one in a few years when 1 Bloor and Aura are finished. The others you mentioned are not clusters...Chicago has a few clusters; Melbourne too!!! TO has one!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Panorama-from-panorama.jpg/800px-Panorama-from-panorama.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/2562266921_a940b4a597.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/2554452665_4f80d9ed75.jpg?v=0

[vancouverite/to'er]

Why is Toronto the only non-aerial picture?:lol:
http://i20.tinypic.com/e5itmd.jpg

In this picture alone there are clearly two main clusters! I don't even count the Cityplace crap or 16 York which isn't illustrated!

[dleung]

^^ Actually only Chicago had the aerial photo... anyway it's safe to say Toronto has mini clusters all over the city, not just along Yonge.. it's a city of skyscrapers (and commie blocks, lol).

Anyway since this is a Vancouver thread, here's a render I did a while ago from the future skyline thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=610277):

I added 3 buildings; RC, Capitol Residences and the Georgia
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2899/81709992yi6.jpg

[dleung]

Updated render:

Before:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4735/p1060384ja8yn8.jpg

After:
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/5498/p1060384ja8bno9.jpg

[jamietoronto]

I come here to see some nice pics of Vancouver, a beautiful city.
And all I can see is posts about Toronto. Why do you feel the need to compete with Toronto so much? Seriously. We are two cities, on two different levels. Vancouver has 2.5 million in the metro area, and Toronto has 5.5 million. More than double.

Vancouver is a beautiful city, but just stop comparing yourself to Toronto.

C'mon, I have read "How big is Metropolitan Vancouver?" The 3rd post includes, "How big is Toronto's urban area?" Then I come here, and you compare whose skyline is more dense. The thread was supposed to be about Vancouver and its future skyline. What does that have to do with Toronto?

I am a proud Torontonian, but I love Vancouver. It is clean, modern, and surrounded by beautiful mountains. Of course, I love Toronto more, I know I am biased.

But can someone tell me why so many Vancouverites feel the need to compare Vancouver to Toronto?

[dleung]

Refer to Next Page

[deasine]

I come here to see some nice pics of Vancouver, a beautiful city.
And all I can see is posts about Toronto. Why do you feel the need to compete with Toronto so much? Seriously. We are two cities, on two different levels. Vancouver has 2.5 million in the metro area, and Toronto has 5.5 million. More than double.

Vancouver is a beautiful city, but just stop comparing yourself to Toronto.

C'mon, I have read "How big is Metropolitan Vancouver?" The 3rd post includes, "How big is Toronto's urban area?" Then I come here, and you compare whose skyline is more dense. The thread was supposed to be about Vancouver and its future skyline. What does that have to do with Toronto?

I am a proud Torontonian, but I love Vancouver. It is clean, modern, and surrounded by beautiful mountains. Of course, I love Toronto more, I know I am biased.

But can someone tell me why so many Vancouverites feel the need to compare Vancouver to Toronto?

DO NOT EVER START AN INDIVIDUAL THREAD LIKE THAT EVER AGAIN.

Honestly, I really hate how it ends up like this city vs city thing. I've read through the stuff you've mentioned but I haven't noticed any "bashing" or "extreme negativity" towards Toronto. In forums, discussions involving cities/regions/countries usually lead to comparisons, and that's always the case. As long as it doesn't lead to BASHING and somewhat related to the topic of the thread, it is fine.

I don't think this needs to be brought up ever again.

[Plumber73]

Updated render:
After:
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/5498/p1060384ja8bno9.jpgNice work dude. Much appreciated. :cheers:

[jamietoronto]

DO NOT EVER START AN INDIVIDUAL THREAD LIKE THAT EVER AGAIN.

Honestly, I really hate how it ends up like this city vs city thing. I've read through the stuff you've mentioned but I haven't noticed any "bashing" or "extreme negativity" towards Toronto. In forums, discussions involving cities/regions/countries usually lead to comparisons, and that's always the case. As long as it doesn't lead to BASHING and somewhat related to the topic of the thread, it is fine.

I don't think this needs to be brought up ever again.

My intentions weren't to compare the cities, but to find out why they are so commonly compared. I do understand how it "leads" to comparing, and I see how it is a sensitive issue, so I won't argue about the thread being closed.

I have seen Toronto bashing in these forum, by the way. And even as a moderator, you are bisaed, living in Vancouver (we are all biased).

If it helps, I got my answer...
They are compared because they are they are among the big cities of Canada.

And I won't bring this up again...

[dleung]

I was hoping that you'd go away if no one answered your cry for attention. Btw, the only people who mentioned Toronto on this thread are from Toronto, and there's nothing wrong with constructive comparison since everything is relative and cities can learn from each other. Stuff like "why to we feel the need to..." sounds like the ramblings of a hater!

[Plumber73]

"My intentions weren't to compare the cities, but to find out why they are so commonly compared. I do understand how it "leads" to comparing, and I see how it is a sensitive issue, so I won't argue about the thread being closed.

I have seen Toronto bashing in these forum, by the way. And even as a moderator, you are bisaed, living in Vancouver (we are all biased).

If it helps, I got my answer...
They are compared because they are they are among the big cities of Canada.

And I won't bring this up again..."

<<<< It's only natural to talk about one's own city, and here we have people from both Toronto and Vancouver. "Bashing" can happen, but I wouldn't paint everyone with the same brush. Some of us are actually pretty nice.

[dleung]

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2019/6a00d8341d152053ef00e54wa9.jpg

I always wondered why they decided to stick the 200 foot stump of a Coast Hotel (under construction) in literally the only spot downtown where 600 feet is allowed!

[jlousa]

View cones aren't the only thing that limit height, there is still the standard 300' limit that need to be rezoned and approved for higher height. The biggest issue is FSR which would limit height on any small lot.

[deasine]

My intentions weren't to compare the cities, but to find out why they are so commonly compared. I do understand how it "leads" to comparing, and I see how it is a sensitive issue, so I won't argue about the thread being closed.

I have seen Toronto bashing in these forum, by the way. And even as a moderator, you are bisaed, living in Vancouver (we are all biased).

If it helps, I got my answer...
They are compared because they are they are among the big cities of Canada.

And I won't bring this up again...

Go throw me an example right now.

I find this really shocking since there are many Torontonians who visit the BC Subforum, and no one (since I was moderator) has complained about anything until now.

[jamietoronto]

Go throw me an example right now.

I find this really shocking since there are many Torontonians who visit the BC Subforum, and no one (since I was moderator) has complained about anything until now.

Okay... here:

^^I have said that for so long; of course, the nasty Toronto forumers don't buy it. The reality is that Toronto has a few tall towers poking out, but too many vacant surface lots (Cityplace is starting to fix that)...Vancouver does appear much denser. The Vancouver skyline from a distance, looks like New York (minus the tall towers)...a wall of skyscrapers. CN Tower hurts the skyline because it is too much of a focal point, making the eye forget about the height of FCP, etc. As well, if the cluster were spread out more, To's skyline would look better.

"Of course, the nasty Toronto forumers don't buy it." -> Nasty Toronto Forumers.>Is that constructive criticism? Does that not stereotype all Torontonians to be stubborn and jerks? and that "of course" insists that people from Toronto are expected to be jerks.

There is an example, from this very thread.

I can't tell if this is meant to be in a joking manor, but even is so, it is evidence that the mentality of bashing Torontonians exsists. There is always a little bit of truth in a joke. As I read it over, it doesn't seem like such a joke anyway.

[jamietoronto]

Now, I am done.

Lets just end this.

It was wrong of me to make the thread, yes.
It was wrong of me to make such a big deal of a little thing, yes.
I am sorry for those, and I apologize to anyone I offended.

Bashing of Torontonians still occurs, as in the quote above, but not a scale that I should complain about. You can't deny the fact that this occurs, even if it is on such a small scale.

I won't bring it up again if you don't. Deal?

Lets just bring this thread back to what it is supposed to be about. The skyline in 2010.

[deasine]

Okay... here:

"Of course, the nasty Toronto forumers don't buy it." -> Nasty Toronto Forumers.>Is that constructive criticism? Does that not stereotype all Torontonians to be stubborn and jerks? and that "of course" insists that people from Toronto are expected to be jerks.

There is an example, from this very thread.

I can't tell if this is meant to be in a joking manor, but even is so, it is evidence that the mentality of bashing Torontonians exsists. There is always a little bit of truth in a joke. As I read it over, it doesn't seem like such a joke anyway.

HAHA of course the guy is joking... sarcastic actually. What he said after that comment was the truth however.

[dleung]

I'm going to repost this, since I spent a lot of time on it and most people probably missed it between jamie's squabbling:

A few skyline studies in sketchup. Everything north of Robson is included in the model. (Edit: Blue is office, Green is residential, and Pink is everything in between)

In dark pink is a hypothetical 480' footer at the wedge on Georgia/Pender. You'll notice I also did a little mid-rise between it and the Palais Georgia tower (a slight increase in density over the existing building), mainly to emphasize my desire to go against the custom of bulldozing several lots and joining them together to make one big building (such projects kill the fine grain of urbanity that we're so proud of).
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3658/63357545hb1.jpg

In dark blue, a hypothetical 550' foot office/hotel tower next to the Loden (30,000 SF floorplate for offices for the first 10 stories [not visible] , followed by 6 stories of 15,000 SF floorplates for offices, followed by 25 stories of hotel/residential at 8000 SF floorplates)
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1238/lodenqr6.jpg

I just realized that after RC is built, you won't be able to see Shangri-la from Jervis park/Coal harbour marina, (the only place where the buildings in between are short enough for a clear view of either tower)!
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8448/jervisks5.jpg

Edit: I added a bunch of new 400-550 footers:

Before:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6170/nowzn3.jpg

After:
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4008/futureze2.jpg

Before:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7282/nowjo6.jpg

After:
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5744/futurenj3.jpg

Looking down Georgia St:
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/8445/georgiauv6.jpg

[officedweller]

Nice, thanks. The lots on the south side of Alberni - although not in the "higher buildings" zone (but across the street from it) would make good candidates for densification since they do not have view cones over them and would not cast shadows on Robson Street.

[dleung]

I ran shadow studies for them, and they do cast some shadows over robson during summer mornings until around 9am. But there's no other place downtown to put tall towers, without demolishing existing office towers.

[Yellow Fever]

^^ Excellent job as usual, dleung.

[deasine]

^^ Excellent job as usual, dleung.

Dleung's renderings are amazingly scary... HAHA I find it so amazing that you have so much time to do this stuff... but your probably really good at it!

And sorry I did that "lecture"/"explanation" on this forum... should've done a PM instead. I'm going to delete your previous post about the renderings dleung just to save some time for those who have a slower internet connection and need to wait for everything to load >__<"

[dleung]

Here's another one:

Vancouver 2004:
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4080/nowkm6.jpg

Vancouver 2030:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6025/nowkc6.jpg

The North Shore and West End both fill out, the skyline jumps over gastown and forms another cluster around Woodwards. Beyond that, we have mid-rise (6-18 stories) going along hastings, wrapping around false creek, and going down Broadway, extending inland and tapering down to 16th Ave. A lot of single-family areas become like our current arterials, with 4-storey condo/mixed use developments.

[Yellow Fever]

^^ It's amazing that after 26 years the same ships and boats are on the exact same location. :D

There probably will be a new crossing between the 1st and 2nd narrow bridges by that time.

[nova9]

haha, those are probably floating condos.

[Yellow Fever]

This is my rendering of Vancouver skyline in 2015, beat that! dleung.:D


http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr71/yellowfever_2008/28.jpg


Seriously, don't you guys think our skyline would look good like that.

[dleung]

^^ It's amazing that after 26 years the same ships and boats are on the exact same location. :D

There probably will be a new crossing between the 1st and 2nd narrow bridges by that time.

I thought about the burrard crossings, but decided that they look better underground.

[FreeToLove]

Toronto>Vancover.

[nova9]

someone please delete this and the previous post as they are completely useless.

[EdInVan]

DO NOT EVER START AN INDIVIDUAL THREAD LIKE THAT EVER AGAIN.I don't think this needs to be brought up ever again.

That sounds like a very harsh response. It's just an electronic forum; it's not like he said something blasphemous in the middle of a church service. It seems like posts on these forums are taken far too seriously, and that doesn't make for a pleasant reading experience. Let's all breathe.

[dleung]

One more render with visible new buildings:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5254/transparentvq5.jpg

I propose a new urban form for Vancouver, where every building is mixed use (and by that I don't mean a condo tower with a coffee shop at the bottom). Everywhere downtown, up to the corner of pender and Georgia should be built like this:

Current downtown comparisons:
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/8554/buildingformpm4.jpg
Using a scaled-down version of the manhattan model:
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4158/buildingform2uu8.jpg

Massive retail and office podiums up to 70 feet, followed by a chunky mid-rise office section up to about 200 feet and then slender residential pencil towers up to 400-550 feet. Views aren't as important in offices than in condos, especially considering the cooling load in the upper floors of an office tower exposed to sunlight, therefore there's no need for office use to go higher than 10-15 stories. This way, we can afford to have efficiently sized office floor plates, without having to obliterate the scale of the skyline with a chunky tower. Similarly, I prefer the massing of buildings like Grace, where 55% of the floor area is located in a higher-than-average podium, allowing for a slender tower averaging 4000 square feet per floor.

A view of downtown where the tallest of such buildings (in blue) can go.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4981/podiumzf3.jpg

[Vancouver_highrise]

Good pics dleung!

kind of backtracking but...
This is my rendering of Vancouver skyline in 2015, beat that! dleung.:D


http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr71/yellowfever_2008/28.jpg


Seriously, don't you guys think our skyline would look good like that.


I've been to Surfers Paradise and besides Q1 and one other scraper it isn't that great... The buildings arn't that dense when you get downtown and it's pretty small...

[dleung]

We'll have to lose quite a lot of buildings, and then add one supertall, to look like Brisbane, lol.

Current downtown:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2551/currentpt1.jpg

With badass spires attached like future LA in "The Island"
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1576/spireswq6.jpg